reversing bad trades

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Created by: ZachHymanForTheHart

Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 9, 2020

Published: Jul. 9, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I could go back one more trade in the first tree to get eberle but i prefer strome.

Free Agent Signings

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Spooner, Ryan		1	$3,100,000

Trades

EDM

Gagner, Sam
2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
2021 2nd round pick (EDM)

DET

EDM

Ryan Spooner

VAN

Gagner, Sam

EDM

Strome, Ryan

NYR

Spooner, Ryan

MTL

2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
2020 5th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Dubnyk, Devan

MIN

Matt Hendricks

EDM

Additional Details:

2015 1st round pick (16th overall) - Matthew Barzal
the other draft pick in this trade was 33rd overall which the islanders traded along with the 77th overall pick for the 28th overall pick and selected anthony beauvillier.
so let’s just pretend that the oilers did that same trade to jump up and select beauvillier as well.

NYI

Griffin Reinheart

Buyouts

Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
Eric Gryba: $300,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)
Sam Gagner: $315,000 (10%)

Buried

Brandon Manning: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
Markus Granlund: $225,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$81,500,000	$76,341,999	$0	$3,037,500	$5,158,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hall, Taylor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 7	Barzal, Mathew $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) C, RW UFA - 1
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 6	Strome, Ryan $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Beauvillier, Anthony $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 2		Kassian, Zack $1,950,000$1,950,000 RW UFA - 1
Ennis, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Khaira, Jujhar $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Yamamoto, Kailer $894,166$894,166 ($230,000$230K) RW RFA - 2
	Haas, Gaëtan $925,000$925,000 ($637,500$638K) C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 4	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Dubnyk, Devan $2,166,667$2,166,667 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Broberg, Philip $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 5	Green, Mike $2,687,500$2,687,500 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Smith, Mike $2,000,000$2,000,000 ($1,750,000$2M) G NTC UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell $3,200,000$3,200,000 LD UFA - 1	Bear, Ethan $720,000$720,000 ($20,000$20K) RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Nygård, Joakim $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 1		Neal, James $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Archibald, Josh $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1		Benning, Matthew $1,900,000$1,900,000 RD UFA - 1
Russell, Patrick $700,000$700,000 RW UFA - 1		Russell, Kris $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Mantha, Ryan $870,000$870,000 RD UFA - 1		Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Sheahan, Riley $900,000$900,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Chiasson, Alex $2,150,000$2,150,000 RW UFA - 2

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.

dtd_tank

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I really love AA, so I could go either way on that trade... (from Detroit perspective)

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.

bhavikp27

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Dubnyk would have never been a starter/great G if he wasn't traded from Edmonton. So good for him he got moved

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.

kafle22

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If we had not traded petry, we wouldn't have gotten talbot

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: dtd_tank

I really love AA, so I could go either way on that trade... (from Detroit perspective)

me too. but i had to go back through that trade to get back to strome

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Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.

RangerWall92

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If you reversed bad draft picks, you could've had Barzal

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Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: kafle22

If we had not traded petry, we wouldn't have gotten talbot

true. but i mean... he’s not there anymore. and i didn’t dig that deep. i just kinda seen a trade and undid it. i could one where i go more in depth i just don’t have the time atm

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: RangerWall92

If you reversed bad draft picks, you could've had Barzal

Was about to say the same. The Oilers made so many mistakes that you just lose track of some

If I am not mistaken, the other part of that trade endend up in Bauvillier if I am not mistaken

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Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Dubnyk would have never been a starter/great G if he wasn't traded from Edmonton. So good for him he got moved

well, yeah. you’re not wrong. but he’s good now. and that’s what mattered when i did this.

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

jordyweal

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Big no from MTL

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

Was about to say the same. The Oilers made so many mistakes that you just lose track of some

If I am not mistaken, the other part of that trade endend up in Bauvillier if I am not mistaken

now that it’s mentioned i remember that. it just slipped my mind when i made this i guess.

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: ANIX

Big no from MTL

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ this is a trade that happened a few years ago. all i did was reverse it.

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.

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Ste_Catherine_Street

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Chiarelli...what a farce. Constanza woulda done a better job

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.

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BorisBagel

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Habs decline

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: BorisBagel

Habs decline

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ this is a trade that happened a few years ago. all i did was reverse it

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

Was about to say the same. The Oilers made so many mistakes that you just lose track of some

If I am not mistaken, the other part of that trade endend up in Bauvillier if I am not mistaken

i fixed it

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:46 p.m.

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BorisBagel

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Quoting: Kukas26

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ this is a trade that happened a few years ago. all i did was reverse it

yes, I realized that ... Habs decline the reversal ...

Jul. 9, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: BorisBagel

yes, I realized that ... Habs decline the reversal ...

hahah. just pretend it never happened in the first place and petry is still an oiler 😂

Jul. 9, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.

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Jfstompers

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Lol getting spooner is bad but moving spooner is bad too. Can't really judge the AA trade yet.

Jul. 9, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.

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sedin33

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Quoting: Jfstompers

Lol getting spooner is bad but moving spooner is bad too. Can't really judge the AA trade yet.

I don't think you want that back. Let me help. Spooner was bought out after that season. He was in the KHL last season. Gagner was still in the league.

Take the win (I don't think that's the right word here) Edmonton.

Jul. 9, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.

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Kotkaniemi15

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Petry wouldn’t have re-signed, also the 4th became Caleb Jones (and the 2nd was traded for Talbot, but that doesn’t affect the current team).

Jul. 9, 2020 at 6:03 p.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Petry wouldn’t have re-signed, also the 4th became Caleb Jones (and the 2nd was traded for Talbot, but that doesn’t affect the current team).

oh well.

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Jul. 9, 2020 at 6:33 p.m.

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Trevy

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Don’t really know how you can say Athanasiou was a bad trade after only 9 games. Also it’s likely EDM wouldn’t have picked Barzal, they were apparently in on Joel Erickson Ek

Jul. 10, 2020 at 1:25 a.m.

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ZachHymanForTheHart

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Quoting: Trevy

Don’t really know how you can say Athanasiou was a bad trade after only 9 games. Also it’s likely EDM wouldn’t have picked Barzal, they were apparently in on Joel Erickson Ek

that’s just the pick they traded and that’s who got picked with that pick. so that’s who i used.

Jul. 10, 2020 at 7:51 a.m.

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Mike

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No take backs... I think AA will be nice fit long term there with his speed ..green might help vet presence

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