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Ken Holland triggering some fans

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Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2020
Published: Jul. 15, 2020
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1. There are rumors NYR wants PoolParty more than Oilers want Lias, they have two 1st rounders so they give up the later to get Jesse.

2. Oilers have two 1st. They give up the later 1st to get Palmieri. Helping NJD on their rebuild while helping Mcdavid on his wing.

3. There were trade rumors Leafs have some depth on the wings but needed a shutdown D. The trade finally happened. Some leafs fans are mad, some are happy.

4. Eh. To make room for Kapanen on the RW.

5. Holland once fleeced the flames, now he acquire Markstrom! Due to Canucks cap problems and losing to the play in rounds, Markstrom went to their division rivals.

6. James Neal had a monstrous playoff run, while Avs had a first round exit. They were enticed of Neal’s and used their cap space. Yikes!

Oilers finally had some depth on the wing and some Veniza tier goal tending. Let’s plan the parade boys!
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:03 a.m.
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retain half on Larsson and maybe Leafs give you Johnsson.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:03 a.m.
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LOL no thx, add Benson, Jones and a 3rd and maybe we consider... maybe
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:09 a.m.
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"may be unrealistic"

yeah, thinking you're getting a 1st for Pool Party is definitely unrealistic bud
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:11 a.m.
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"may be unrealistic"

yeah, thinking you're getting a 1st for Pool Party is definitely unrealistic bud


There were rumors. That wasn’t even unrealistic but ok. Each to their own.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:12 a.m.
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Methinks it's you who is trying to trigger fans.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:14 a.m.
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Methinks it's you who is trying to trigger fans.


LOL
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:15 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:58 a.m. by F50marco
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There were rumors. That wasn’t even unrealistic but ok. Each to their own.


Thinking you're going to get a 1st for Puljujarvi is absolutely unrealistic. Short of adding one of Broberg, Bouchard, Klefbom, Draisaitl, or McDavid to Puljujarvi, it's just not happening. And if one of those is added, the 1st is for that player. Puljujarvi's just the sweetener
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:16 a.m.
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There were rumors. That wasn’t even unrealistic but ok. Each to their own.


The rumor was Lias for Pool Party. Then Holland said add a 1st, then Gorton laughed for about 5 whole minutes. Then the world laughed. And now were all laughing. lol
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:18 a.m.
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colorado can only eat one year contracts. kris russel maybe but i think ottawa can probably take him.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:30 a.m.
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The rumor was Lias for Pool Party. Then Holland said add a 1st, then Gorton laughed for about 5 whole minutes. Then the world laughed. And now were all laughing. lol


That was during the beginning of the 2019 season. Back when rangers don’t have two 1sts, and Pulju looking like a bust until a good year in Finals. There were “smoke” on the trade according to some articles. Not ideal to the rangers but its far from being unrealistic.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:32 a.m.
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Thinking you're going to get a 1st for Puljujarvi is absolutely unrealistic, and just makes everyone laugh at you. Maybe standards for realism are different wherever you are. Short of adding one of Broberg, Bouchard, Klefbom, Draisaitl, or McDavid to Puljujarvi, it's just not happening. And if one of those is added, the 1st is for that player. Puljujarvi's just the sweetener


You are insane. ~23 overall doesn't come close to any of those players.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:41 a.m.
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That was during the beginning of the 2019 season. Back when rangers don’t have two 1sts, and Pulju looking like a bust until a good year in Finals. There were “smoke” on the trade according to some articles. Not ideal to the rangers but its far from being unrealistic.


It was in Nov. The 2nd 1st doesn't make either of them expendable for a player like Jesse. Pulju was playing well then. The main difference from now and then is that Lias went to the SHL and put up the exact same point rate as Puljujarvi making the Rangers initial offer of Lias for Jesse even more sensible now.

Regardless, it doesn't make sense. The Rangers dealt for Gauthier at the deadline. He took Puljujarvi's potential spot in the lineup. There's no room for JP anymore.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
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A first and prospect was the ask for JP so your on the money there. People on this site tend to completely devalue players they really know nothing about.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:47 a.m.
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Two thing to call out on the NJ side of the proposed deal and an added deal.

1) I'm curious about the value of Palms (or any rental for that matter) without knowing the number of games for next season. The proposed start is December '20, right? Shortened season? I can go both ways here - first, less games, less value. I think that's plain and simple. Second, digging deeper - shorter season becomes a sprint, so load up, value of a rental increases. I hope the Devils resign him, but if they move him I'd love to see a prospect coming back. If that 2020 pick is 10-15, my ask becomes tough/impossible (maybe the Devils adding a mid 21 pick to the mix). Not sure.

2) I doubt Colorado can take the duration of the Neal contract, but NJ certainly can. I'm not opposed to taking him on, so something to the effect of 2x1sts in 2020, 21, prospect, and Neal, for Palms. Just spit balling here!

Nice post!
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:49 a.m.
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I will say overall the only things I’m not big on that you did is deal larsson away I’m very big on larsson personally. Dont care for Andersson personally and flipping that first for an aging vet I’d rather just bring jp back into the fold and give him the opportunity he earned a few years ago. But if your in the camp that he won’t return then I could get behind something like that.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 8:50 a.m.
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Edited Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
LOL no thx, add Benson, Jones and a 3rd and maybe we consider... maybe


Quoting: FreeTacosAreBestTacos
"may be unrealistic"

yeah, thinking you're getting a 1st for Pool Party is definitely unrealistic bud


Quoting: FreeTacosAreBestTacos
Thinking you're going to get a 1st for Puljujarvi is absolutely unrealistic, and just makes everyone laugh at you. Maybe standards for realism are different wherever you are. Short of adding one of Broberg, Bouchard, Klefbom, Draisaitl, or McDavid to Puljujarvi, it's just not happening. And if one of those is added, the 1st is for that player. Puljujarvi's just the sweetener


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The rumor was Lias for Pool Party. Then Holland said add a 1st, then Gorton laughed for about 5 whole minutes. Then the world laughed. And now were all laughing. lol


You can disagree with Puljujarvi's value on the trade market legitimately because none of us actually knows what any GM is willing to pay, but to say things like "absolutely unrealistic", "definitely unrealistic" and "were (sp) all laughing" is demonstrably false, as I proved in comments 1,2 and 5 in the link below. Puljujarvi has a similar or higher ceiling and far less risk than a pick in the mid twenties.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/332985
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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It was in Nov. The 2nd 1st doesn't make either of them expendable for a player like Jesse. Pulju was playing well then. The main difference from now and then is that Lias went to the SHL and put up the exact same point rate as Puljujarvi making the Rangers initial offer of Lias for Jesse even more sensible now.

Regardless, it doesn't make sense. The Rangers dealt for Gauthier at the deadline. He took Puljujarvi's potential spot in the lineup. There's no room for JP anymore.


1) Andersson had a tiny sample size in SHL this year, just 15 games.
2) he scored at 0.80 P/GP which is NOT "the exact same point rate" as Puljujarvi's 0.95 scoring rate.
3) Andersson's 5v5 play was abysmal in SHL whereas Puljujarvi lead Liiga in possession and shots by a wide margin and was near the top in GF%.

To cast these two players as equivalent is ignorant of the facts.
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Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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Stars don’t want Chaisson. I don’t think Larsson gets you remotely close to Kapanen
Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:01 a.m.
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I will say overall the only things I’m not big on that you did is deal larsson away I’m very big on larsson personally. Dont care for Andersson personally and flipping that first for an aging vet I’d rather just bring jp back into the fold and give him the opportunity he earned a few years ago. But if your in the camp that he won’t return then I could get behind something like that.


Me too. Larsson is solid. But looking at every “elite” team out there there’s always a high scoring D man on their roster. Hoping Bouch will be that guy, but he has to eventually take over the top 4.

Pittsburgh has letang. Blues has Petri. Avs has Makar. Caps has Carlson. Boston has Krug. Tampa has Hedman. If you wanna add Vegas, they have Theodore.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 9:14 a.m.
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Me too. Larsson is solid. But looking at every “elite” team out there there’s always a high scoring D man on their roster. Hoping Bouch will be that guy, but he has to eventually take over the top 4.

Pittsburgh has letang. Blues has Petri. Avs has Makar. Caps has Carlson. Boston has Krug. Tampa has Hedman. If you wanna add Vegas, they have Theodore.


Ya I’m confident by the end of next season bouch will be that offensive blueline stud in the top 4. He’s going to push bear or larsson out of the top four. My choice is keep larsson shut down d are important still and he’s the only one on the team which blows my mind how often I see people throwing him aside. I tend to suggest trading bear for a rental like petry older more experienced can shelter bouch better just to make it easier on him to get going and confidence.
Jul. 15, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Puljujarvi... a guy who has shown to be a low end third liner in NA at best... and is currently holding out and is content playing in Europe... has MORE VALUE than a PROVEN high end top 6 winger...
Jul. 15, 2020 at 11:26 a.m.
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Leafs are giving up a year of control in that trade for an arguably comparable worse player
Jul. 15, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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You triggered New York fans
Toronto fans are divided on larsson
 
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