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Trading Zuccarello

Created by: MNBassman
Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2020
Published: Jul. 21, 2020
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By all accounts, Mats Zuccarello is a great guy, a well-liked teammate, and a good hockey player...but, his signing has never made one iota of sense for the Wild...for many reasons...

This Turris for Zuccarello trade that’s been floating around here for a while makes perfect sense to me from the Wild’s perspective. I would like to see some other ideas. I would be open to retaining salary, taking on a different bad contract, etc.
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Free Agent Signings
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3$1,000,000
2$1,750,000
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5$3,000,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Turris, Kyle
Additional Details:
Wild get a much less redundant part.
NSH
  1. Zuccarello, Mats
Additional Details:
Zuccarello gets to be Mikael Granlund’s replacement...again.
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23$81,500,000$66,382,758$0$925,000$15,117,242
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$785,000$785,000
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RD
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:45 a.m.
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Play sam anas
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Play sam anas


He’s a call-up guy, not a full-time NHLer.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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He’s a call-up guy, not a full-time NHLer.


He just scored 70 pts in the AHL smh
Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
He just scored 70 pts in the AHL smh


All levels of hockey are full of big point producers who can’t compete at the next level...Sam Anas is one of those. However, if throwing him in a trade gets you to take Zuccarello off our hands, I’m all ears.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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All levels of hockey are full of big point producers who can’t compete at the next level...Sam Anas is one of those. However, if throwing him in a trade gets you to take Zuccarello off our hands, I’m all ears.


Yeah... no
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:52 a.m.
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All levels of hockey are full of big point producers who can’t compete at the next level...Sam Anas is one of those. However, if throwing him in a trade gets you to take Zuccarello off our hands, I’m all ears.


that was such a bad signing.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
that was such a bad signing.


Badder than bad!
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 9:58 a.m.
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Just play Zuccarello with good players and he'll be fine. His production when he's played with top players has been very good, he just sucks when he doesn't have good support from linemates.

He'd be a decent fit on Colorado's 2nd line, but Minnesota would have to retain quite a bit to lower the risk. It's a dangerous contract for Avs to take on since he'll be 35 with a year remaining when Mackinnon needs to be resigned. Maybe at $4m AAV ($2m retention) it would be workable for Colorado and make Zuccarello more moveable in 2023 but I don't see that making sense for Minnesota.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Just play Zuccarello with good players and he'll be fine. His production when he's played with top players has been very good, he just sucks when he doesn't have good support from linemates.


Its not that he’s not a good player - it’s the horrible contract for an old and redundant part!
Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:08 a.m.
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Can’t Turris be exposed for the Expansion draft but Zucc can not due to NMC? No chance Preds do it if that’s the case
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Just play Zuccarello with good players and he'll be fine. His production when he's played with top players has been very good, he just sucks when he doesn't have good support from linemates.


Which is why he doesn't fit here in Minnesota. We played him with Zucker, Staal and Parise, he was **** and didn't produce, and the only two players I think he'd play well with, Fiala and Kaprizov, are also LHS's who prefer to play the RW.

We really need to move Zuccarello, that $6M is just killing us and keeps us from being able to maneuver and acquire the right sort of talent this team needs to pull itself out of the muck.

Such a stupid signing by Fenton.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
Its not that he’s not a good player - it’s the horrible contract for an old and redundant part!


Quoting: RazWild
Which is why he doesn't fit here in Minnesota. We played him with Zucker, Staal and Parise, he was **** and didn't produce, and the only two players I think he'd play well with, Fiala and Kaprizov, are also LHS's who prefer to play the RW.

We really need to move Zuccarello, that $6M is just killing us and keeps us from being able to maneuver and acquire the right sort of talent this team needs to pull itself out of the muck.

Such a stupid signing by Fenton.


How about Zuccarello ($2m retained) for Jost?

Here's an AGM of that trade from Colorado's perspective: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1803730
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
How about Zuccarello ($2m retained) for Jost?

Here's an AGM of that trade from Colorado's perspective: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1803730


For the record I'm against swapping for the corpse of Turiss. If Granlund couldn't get him going, nothing will. I'd rather just keep Zuccarello at that point.

I don't like the thought of retaining, as we still need to buy out Rask, both combined mean we only opened up $3M vs $6M. That said, where does Guerin sign?

While we don't need another bottom 6 center tbh, he's leagues better than Rask, and greatly gives us better depth down the middle.

I like it! Deal!
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
How about Zuccarello ($2m retained) for Jost?

Here's an AGM of that trade from Colorado's perspective: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1803730


Retaining $2million is a tough pill to swallow, but definitely something to consider. I would, however, prefer to retain $1million and sweeten the pot with a pick. What pick not named 1st would it take?
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:36 a.m.
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For the record I'm against swapping for the corpse of Turiss. If Granlund couldn't get him going, nothing will. I'd rather just keep Zuccarello at that point.

I don't like the thought of retaining, as we still need to buy out Rask, both combined mean we only opened up $3M vs $6M. That said, where does Guerin sign?

While we don't need another bottom 6 center tbh, he's leagues better than Rask, and greatly gives us better depth down the middle.

I like it! Deal!


"the corpse of Turris" -- he was on pace for 41 points this year playing mostly bottom 6 minutes with players like Watson, Sissons, Trenin, and Jarnkrok. Those are not high offensive players. For whatever reason, Laviolette put Turris in his doghouse and wouldn't let him out. When he got fired and Hynes got hired, he was given a more prominent role in the top 6. Right now, he's on a line with Duchene and Granlund for the NHL restart. Given more playing time and a more prominent role in the top 6, Turris should be able to get 50+ points next season. He isn't a "corpse" - he injured his ankle last season and ten couldn't get out of Lavy's doghouse this season. Now that he's fully healthy and playing with more offensive players, I think he's primed for a bounce-back season.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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Quoting: MNBassman
Retaining $2million is a tough pill to swallow, but definitely something to consider. I would, however, prefer to retain $1million and sweeten the pot with a pick. What pick not named 1st would it take?


A pick is of no use to Colorado. The biggest factor in the trade would be lowering the risk involved with Zuccarello's contract. If it was only until 2023 I'd gladly accept with only $1m retention, but having a 35 year old Zuccarello on the books in 2023 with 1 year remaining at $5m could be a brutal albatross, and I would want to avoid that risk. A 2nd or whatever pick you have in mind doesn't make that risk worth it. At $4m / 1 year it would be much easier to move him in 2023 though, at least theoretically, so I would have to insist on $2m retention.
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Jul. 21, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
For the record I'm against swapping for the corpse of Turiss. If Granlund couldn't get him going, nothing will. I'd rather just keep Zuccarello at that point.

I don't like the thought of retaining, as we still need to buy out Rask, both combined mean we only opened up $3M vs $6M. That said, where does Guerin sign?

While we don't need another bottom 6 center tbh, he's leagues better than Rask, and greatly gives us better depth down the middle.

I like it! Deal!


The Wild don't need to buy out Rask. They have $16m this offseason to fit in Kaprizov's ELC, extensions for Kunin, Greenway, and Soucy, and then figure out what they can manage for a center. Maybe they sign a goalie for a year, but they're not going to get a $10m AAV center in free agency so they'll have no problem fitting in everything while riding out the last year of Rask and Dubnyk.
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