Murray for Kapanen sure, but don't see them moving him for Dermott. Not sure they can even afford him without moving more cap than Freddy

I’ve seen a lot of Leafs ACGM’s moving Dermott for little to nothing and I think it’s almost a guarantee that Andreas Johnsson will get moved. Him and Freddy would give Toronto an extra $8.5M to work with to sign Mikheyev and in this case Murray.

Devils aren't giving up 2 picks in this draft for Bjugstad, sorry. They need those picks.

I’d literally trade him for a 7th at this rate.

Don’t see Toronto moving andersson and if they were going to they would sign lehner.

Also too much for Murray. Toronto is thin on D, especially ones who can play the right like Dermott.

I'm sure when the in other ACGM where he's gonna trade Anderson he brings back a 1st.

But murray will bring back some scraps and change.

Penguins ain't taking that mess.
A late 2nd and a bottom pairing guy on one of the worst defenses in the league doesn't return you much of anything.

"the leafs need a better goalie, Andersen hasnt had it in a while"
/capfriendly puts it's heads together
"what about murray? he was good like 4 years ago!"

Lol... that is all.

I'd consider Kerfoot for Murray if we moved Andersen for say 2nd rounders and Woo and got a new 3rd line C and of course Murray's new deal is under 5 million AAV

Murray for Dermott, 2nd.

It's going to take considerably more than the equivalent of Ruhwedel and a 2nd to get Murray.

People who move Dermott for scraps do not know how to hockey.

He’s a skilled player and will most likely get a shot at top 4 minutes (currently plays around 17-18min) on the right side next season. When moe and muzzin were out he stepped up and played great. All he needs is the minutes and confidence.

Ruhwedel? That is a horrible caomparison....

Wanna talk ice time... Jack Johnson got more ice time. 17:12 v 16:07 ev, 2:12 v 1:09 PK, 0:04 v 0:03 PP, 19:28 v 17:19 total. Dermott did not get an increase in ice time over last year, and barely an increase over two years ago, 0:36 ev.

Even with injury fill in his time didn't increase. He'd be a 6-7 D in Pittsburgh. Not going to cut it for Murray.

Lol, looking at numbers instead of players. He’s a skilled 2 way Dman that would most likely be in our top 4 next year. He’s also young and really hasn’t been given the opportunity yet, other than when muzz and moe were out and he played quit well.

You brought up the numbers, so once shown that they don't actually support your side you mock using numbers.... okay.

Exactly where did I bring up numbers? The only number I brought up is his age. Leafs have been taking it slow with him and some injuries have certainly slowed the pace. That doesn’t make him a poor player.

Wow, it's literally a direct qouted thread...

You: "... and will most likely get a shot at top 4 minutes (currently plays around 17-18min)
Me: "Wanna talk ice time..."
You: "lol, looking at numbers..."
Me: "You brought up the numbers"
You: "where"

Facepalm

Also...
You: "The only number I brought up is his age"
You never actually mentioned his age as a number. Are you just not paying attention to what you are saying, at all?

His ice time per game is 17-18m just like said, what exactly is your point?

You are literally trolling yourself and your attitude is horrible.

Facepalm

If Murray is so worthless, why do you keep trying to convince Penguins fans that they should want to trade him to you?

The offer sucks. They hang up the phone on you.

Ummm... I’m not.