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Major changes need to be made 1 of the big 4 has to go

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2020
Published: Aug. 9, 2020
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40 million for yet another first round exit. 0-3 in winner take all games, getting embarrassed by a team who's best forward couldn't even crack 50 points and getting embarrassed by a .910 goalie. 0 intensity, 0 effort, absolute joke. If Dubas doesn't make a big move it's time to move on from him too
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  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Nylander, William
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One of them for a shutdown RHD. Marner is the better player but Nylander is on a much cheaper deal. Depends on the return really
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  1. Marincin, Martin
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Banish him to Mars
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.
#26
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Well leaf fans I know and understand your pain. Loss hurts getting the team back watching them play only to be taken away so quickly. It sucks. I don’t want you to win it but good luck anyway tomorrow in the lottery.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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Only people who are temperamental leafs fans unfortunately. Korpisalo stole that game. Freddy should have made that last save but what are you going to do. Just bad luck really. They got some bounces to go their way and we didn’t.


Always excuses, always. CLB showed up, played a tight, MUCH better game than TOR, worked their asses off and won. Simple as that. Stop making excuses for your god awful team constructed by Kyle Dumba*s
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Other than your first point I would have to disagree with the rest. I thought they busted their ass tonight, but I probably won’t get much support from the leafs fan base.

Sometimes the puck doesn’t bounce your way.


Winning isn’t easy. Leafs are the 2010 capitals (way less talented) they don’t know how to win and are really easy to defend
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Matthews f the team by taking them for every cent he could. Dude should make 10 million Marner should make 8.5-9m then they would t have had to trade kadri. So obvious who won that trade now.


I agree with you on that, - they miss kadri , guy has a lot of heart.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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to be fair Muzzin was out, Barrie was out leaving Rielly and Dermott as the only 2 good dman. Ceci sucks and should not be a top 4 RHD, Holl is okay away from Muzzin but if Muzzin is out Holl should be a third pairing guy


Holl is a train wreck away from Muzzin, «okay» is a massive understatement
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
I agree with you on that, - they miss kadri , guy has a lot of heart.


Domino effect. Get paid after you win. Or you’ll never win
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:40 p.m.
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One of them has to go for a shutdown RHD. I know it's not happening, but I'd love to package one of them to Nashville for Ryan Ellis


Yeah Ellis is an elite #1 D. I just don’t think Dubas will trade marner or nylander.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:40 p.m.
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holy f ck leafs fans are something else.. i’m embarrassed to call my self a leafs fan when others act like this. one night they come back from 3-0 and everyone is like “our team is the best!” the next night they lose and now we have to trade parts of “the big 4” ?? most of the things i see posted about the leafs on this cite are the dumbest things ive ever heard. if you are one of these “fans” please just shut up. stop ruining this cite. if you are actually a fan you should believe in your team. yeah, you can make jokes and talk sh t about your team because that’s what you do. but if you’re gonna post stupid trades and opinions, just don’t.

marner was and has been really good in that series. nylander looked lost tonight but that’s because keefe tried to play him at center all game but he looked good in other games. neither of them are going anywhere. we got screwed by barrie getting injured and muzzin already out. we also can’t play that “super line” all game.

i already know i’m gonna hate for this because that is what everyone does on this cite. so thanks to you for ruining one of the only good hockey cites there was.
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Always excuses, always. CLB showed up, played a tight, MUCH better game than TOR, worked their asses off and won. Simple as that. Stop making excuses for your god awful team constructed by Kyle Dumba*s


The game winning goal was a fluke off Barrie’s stick. I thought Toronto was much tighter than they were defensively. Shots and scoring chances favoured the leafs heavily. Some great goaltending on the other side and some missed opportunities.

I mean it is what it is.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Domino effect. Get paid after you win. Or you’ll never win


they should've asked matthews and marner to not take eight figure sums. very easy thing to do when they've put up elite seasons in their teams.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Kukas2600
holy f ck leafs fans are something else.. i’m embarrassed to call my self a leafs fan when others act like this. one night they come back from 3-0 and everyone is like “our team is the best!” the next night they lose and now we have to trade parts of “the big 4” ?? most of the things i see posted about the leafs on this cite are the dumbest things ive ever heard. if you are one of these “fans” please just shut up. stop ruining this cite. if you are actually a fan you should believe in your team. yeah, you can make jokes and talk sh t about your team because that’s what you do. but if you’re gonna post stupid trades and opinions, just don’t.

marner was and has been really good in that series. nylander looked lost tonight but that’s because keefe tried to play him at center all game but he looked good in other games. neither of them are going anywhere. we got screwed by barrie getting injured and muzzin already out. we also can’t play that “super line” all game.

i already know i’m gonna hate for this because that is what everyone does on this cite. so thanks to you for ruining one of the only good hockey cites there was.


My biggest confusion/ criticism is that the Leaf fan base I here is so arrogant that they assume they would automatically win a series where both teams had the same amount of standing points and were 1 seed apart.
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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Marner should be praying right now.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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Yeah Ellis is an elite #1 D. I just don’t think Dubas will trade marner or nylander.


He has to. 4 years of 0 progress doesn't mean run it back again. All that does is waste assets for a trade. Now with the worst right side D in history coming up next year if no moves are made there is 0 motive to not trade at least 1.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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they should've asked matthews and marner to not take eight figure sums. very easy thing to do when they've put up elite seasons in their teams.


Yeah. Penguins should have demanded guentzel take a higher salary. Hard to argue giving them all that money with all the elite numbers and success they just had....
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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My biggest confusion/ criticism is that the Leaf fan base I here is so arrogant that they assume they would automatically win a series where both teams had the same amount of standing points and were 1 seed apart.


idk why anyone would expect the leafs to walk away with that series. columbus is one of the best defensive teams in the league. columbus can manage to shut down other teams offence and still put up some offence to win. they are a good team.
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.
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Winning isn’t easy. Leafs are the 2010 capitals (way less talented) they don’t know how to win and are really easy to defend


Couple of those early chances go in and it’s a different game. It looked like a pp with the big line out. But korpisalo was up to the task and when he wasn’t the puck wasn’t bouncing our way.

One of the major issues tonight I saw was the bottom 6 not contributing. Mikheyev didn’t look good at all in the entire series. Was nice to see Johnsson back, short lived as that was lol.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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Marner should be praying right now.


for what? along with matthews he was the best player on the ice for the leafs.
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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for what? along with matthews he was the best player on the ice for the leafs.


Praying he doesn’t get the boot over Nylander
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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I agree with you on that, - they miss kadri , guy has a lot of heart.


Because he was so useful in the playoffs... oh wait.... that’s why he was traded.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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Praying he doesn’t get the boot over Nylander


again.. marner along with matthews was the player on the ice for the leafs.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Kukas2600
idk why anyone would expect the leafs to walk away with that series. columbus is one of the best defensive teams in the league. columbus can manage to shut down other teams offence and still put up some offence to win. they are a good team.


I agree. Like I said before the leafs are no different than the 2010 capitals. They are easy to defend and have no clue how to win. They aren’t committed to winning. Winning isn’t easy. It actually sucks and it’s hard work. I watched the capitals struggle to evolve but they finally did. Once They figure it out they’ll be a dangerous team.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.
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for what? along with matthews he was the best player on the ice for the leafs.

Matthews marner and Tavares were all great tonight. Nylander was kinda meh but that’s his play style. I’ve learned that it has nothing to do with his effort.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:51 p.m.
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Couple of those early chances go in and it’s a different game. It looked like a pp with the big line out. But korpisalo was up to the task and when he wasn’t the puck wasn’t bouncing our way.

One of the major issues tonight I saw was the bottom 6 not contributing. Mikheyev didn’t look good at all in the entire series. Was nice to see Johnsson back, short lived as that was lol.


Capitals lost more cups to win the rangers. We played the King in his prime. Block shots keep them to the outside. Keep the shots to the outside and defend the house easy win.
Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:52 p.m.
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Matthews marner and Tavares were all great tonight. Nylander was kinda meh but that’s his play style. I’ve learned that it has nothing to do with his effort.


all these people saying marner needs to go meanwhile he’s been a top 3 player on the leafs for the whole series. he’s created chances, took shots, back checked, played D, he’s even thrown the body. Marner has proved to be a top 5 RW in the nhl in my opinion.
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Aug. 9, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
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all these people saying marner needs to go meanwhile he’s been a top 3 player on the leafs for the whole series. he’s created chances, took shots, back checked, played D, he’s even thrown the body. Marner has proved to be a top 5 RW in the nhl in my opinion.


I don’t think any of the big 4 are moving. Personally I think it was a mistake to not have Sandin in. Leafs certainly haven’t had much luck with keeping muzzin healthy.
 
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