We all knew this would happen. Gutting the depth so we can keep 4 guys. Thanks Mitch.

...you're trying to give me an aneurysm, aren't you?

The Blue Jackets don't need Kerfoot, who is a bottom-6 forward. We are interested in top-6 forward talent, with a focus on scoring, and preferably a 2C. Someone like William Nylander fits the bill. Savard could certainly be had as part of a package for Nylander, depending on the other pieces. Please stop giving us scraps for our assets, especially given that we got a very good look at Dermott in the play-in round, and he's not a fit for what we need in our overstuffed D corps anyway.

Hawks dont want either of those players, but the do like Murphy. Crows been VERY vocal about wanting to stay in CHI and that money isn't a high priority. They'll sign him not because he's cheaper than Freddie...who knows what the contract will be...but because he's better.

why do leaf fans only blame Mitch? you can argue hes better than matthews...he def just as good as matthews. Matthews was just as selfish why no hate towards him?? baffling

did you take a look at the cap situation moving forward?
2021-2022 only 9million in cap space with only 7F/5D/2G... (Hymen needing a raise as one of those needing to be resigned)
Depth in that bottom 6F gunna be really thin

Give it a rest. No matter how much we moan and grown and present our reasons, the leafs fans will continue to dump their unwanted players on us.

I like Savard and all (Moncton Wildcats alum!), but I wonder what Leafers would do when they realize that he's not as good as they've built him up in their mind to be...

Leafs fans don't always blame mitch. Only the fans who don't make a lot of sense. He's not better than Matthews and that's not even an argument. He's overpaid a bit and a fantastic playmaker. Probably the best playmaker in the league. As for the overpay, Oh well, every GM has a **** contract except the Leafs now. If our **** contract is traded for a slightly overpaid playmaker I'll take it. That's not the issue with the Leafs. The problem with the Leafs is the Young guys need to realise that playing without structure and by the seat of your pants doesn't work in the NHL. That's a Youth problem. Listen to the coach, learn the game he's teaching and play the game he teaches you and the wins will happen.

They were both selfish but the NHL pays for Goals and centers. Matthews should have been at $10.5M and Marner at $9.5M both over paid by a minimum of a $1M both should have also been for 8 years.

Marner disappeared in the playoffs this year. yes he had 4 assists but only 1 was the primary assist

I don't know why either of them should be blamed? Fight to get the most that you can get. It's not their fault that ownership and management bowed to their demands. Do you think Charlie McAvoy, Matt Tkachuk, and all of the other RFA's who ended up signing bridge deals didn't ask for more?

How is that being selfish? Someone actually wrote up the contract.

agree to disagree lol. MArner and Mathews are equal talents.... lets say one is a yard the other is a meter.

He's quite good! A stalwart, top-4 RHD who can fill in with minutes on the top pair without being an embarrassment. I would never argue he's a 1-for-1 with Nylander, but he has real value.

i mean i completely agree but to say f u marner than defend matthews seems idiotic. both took the team to the bank and didnt realize they hurt the team by doing so

Selfish :lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure. i mean .... the shoe fits

If you want to win you sign a fair deal at market value that allows both the team and player to move forward. the player knows full well that the more he takes the less the team has to improve going forward. The Leafs always spend to the cap and then some so this is not about being cheap for them

Tavares left $2M a year on the table to come to TO as SJ was offering more. McDavid did the same.

Matthews best comparable was Eichal at $10M
Marner had Aho at $8.5M and Rantanen at $9.25M

If you think those players aren't good or don't have talent your a moron. Andersen came in after 4 months off and posted a .937sv% The reason the Leafs are looking to trade him is because they can't afford him. He's been a top goaltender his whole time in Toronto in front of a team that can't defend and won't play a system. Any team that is in need of improving goaltending is considering Andersen without question. As for thinking teams don't trade players who aren't generational talent bottom 6 players are the players who are traded the most without question. Few top 6 players are ever in play. This season I think finding teams looking for top 6 talent is going to be the issue not teams willing to trade them. Reason being dumping cap will be nearly impossible. Hence the reason Dubas finished that deal with Kapanen early and for so much.

CBJ has is own issue with the cap as they need to sign PLD.. so they can't retain 2M + adding 6M= +8M

Tell me more about how "If you want to win you sign a fair deal at market value"? McDavid-hasn't won. I'm pretty confident that he hasn't even made it out of the first round? Tavares-hasn't won. Also hasn't had much success in the playoffs. Eichel, same. Aho, same. Rantanen, same, though this year could be the one.

I don't know, I could be completely wrong, but long-term, what does "hurting the team" have to do with someone being paid what they think they're value is? If my boss comes in to talk about renewing my contract, why would I ever consider taking a discount without asking for the moon first?

Consider the fact that these guys are play for the first three years of their careers at a fraction of their actual value, and then spend the next 3-4 years having their contracts restricted by arbitration. They're tied to one team unless that team decides to trade them to another. Why the heck would they be overly concerned about "hurting the team"? Because they *might* have a shot to win? Screw that. If I'm Matthews, Marner, Tavares or Nylander, the amount that I'm paid has absolutely nothing to do with the contract I've signed. All 4 of these guys have performed extremely well since they were signed.

If there's anyone to blame, it's the group at the top who says "Sign here".

Notwithstanding that CBJ would never accept this trade, between Dubinsky being LTIRetired and Wennberg having a very affordable buyout, CBJ have ample cap flexibility.

Checked it again man... They have 5M today and Dub is already LITR..
You buyout Wenny -4M= 9M
You have to pay PLD & Anderson= 10M... humm you are already missing 1M... and with this trade you are adding an extra 8M... redo your Math bros

There will be many teams who pay Lehner 8 mio

OK, "bros", let's do the math.

Salary cap for next year: $81.5M
$36.25M (forwards) + 26.15M (D) + 6.8M (G) + 5.85M (Dubi, not benefiting with LTIR here) + 1.25M (Hartnell buyout) = $76.3M
Difference: $5.2M
Difference if Dubi's salary is maxed on LTIR: $11.05M

And that's without buying out Wennberg. So that's the math.

I agree . Dubas created this but not letting Nylander sit out the year but they all claim they want to WIN.

Would you take less money at your job if it meant a perfect work situation?

What would you prefer your legacy to be at the end of your Career?

A $110M in the bank and known as a good hockey player?

OR

B:0 $90M in the bank and 1st ballot HOF, Stanley cup winner, some personal trophy's?


Leaving money on the table allows your team to surround you with a better chance at success.

Look again... Dub is not hitting the cap today @ 36M for your forward... sorry.. don't deduct