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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2020
Published: Aug. 31, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$750,000
2$750,000
4$3,000,000
3$4,000,000
5$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Greenway, Jordan [RFA Rights]
2.
PIT
  1. 2020 5th round pick (LAK)
3.
PIT
  1. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
  2. Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,563,508$0$1,062,500$1,936,492
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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Easy no from the Kings. Add a 1st round pick (even though you don't have one), and it's still no.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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I guess it's a rule that Bjugstad and McCann have to be traded together? LOL
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Easy No from the Hawks. No interest in either of those pieces. Would prefer Crawford.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
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Easy no from the Kings. Add a 1st round pick (even though you don't have one), and it's still no.


Let's think about this for a second....

1) The Kings, like the Senators are probably going to get bribed left and right to take on garbage contracts and make no mistake, they will take some.

2) While the Kings are going to unleash some serious prospects on the league, they are probably not going to be sniffing the playoffs for another four years or so, so they have time to keep stinking it up and collecting futures.

3) While I agree how bad the Johnson one is, financially-speaking, he's far from the worst contract that teams are going to try an put off on teams.

4) The Kings need to fill out their defense, specifically on the left side.

If the Pens offered the Kings a good middle-level prospect, which Bjorqkvist is, and a 1st rounder they'd be stupid to say no. Taking $3.25M for the next three years has no real bearing on them either financially or playoff-wise. So a first and a nice prospect? Again, they'd be stupid.

That said, the way this trade proposed the Pens would need to retain salary on this, maybe 50%.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
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Easy No from the Hawks. No interest in either of those pieces. Would prefer Crawford.


According to reports the Hawks do in-fact have interest in Murray, so...
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
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According to reports the Hawks do in-fact have interest in Murray, so...


NHLTradeRumors is not a source.
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Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
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NHLTradeRumors is not a source.


Nice try, but nope.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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I'd stay away from Strome.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
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Nice try, but nope.


So what is it then?
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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So what is it then?


Well now you don't get to know since you were a diack.

To be honest, I read it in the Athletic and I don't remember which writer reported on it. It was a non-Pens writer. If you google Murray and the Hawks there's plenty if you sift through the garbage.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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Let's think about this for a second....

1) The Kings, like the Senators are probably going to get bribed left and right to take on garbage contracts and make no mistake, they will take some.

2) While the Kings are going to unleash some serious prospects on the league, they are probably not going to be sniffing the playoffs for another four years or so, so they have time to keep stinking it up and collecting futures.

3) While I agree how bad the Johnson one is, financially-speaking, he's far from the worst contract that teams are going to try an put off on teams.

4) The Kings need to fill out their defense, specifically on the left side.

If the Pens offered the Kings a good middle-level prospect, which Bjorqkvist is, and a 1st rounder they'd be stupid to say no. Taking $3.25M for the next three years has no real bearing on them either financially or playoff-wise. So a first and a nice prospect? Again, they'd be stupid.

That said, the way this trade proposed the Pens would need to retain salary on this, maybe 50%.


Here's the recent review of Bjorqkvist by Pronman in the Athletic:

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Bjorkqvist missed most of his first pro season due to a knee injury. When healthy he’s a quick and competitive player, but scouts have questions on how much offense he’ll provide versus men.


https://theathletic.com/2003157/2020/08/24/2020-nhl-organizational-rankings-no-30-pittsburgh-penguins/

The Kings already have more than enough bottom six forward prospects. They don't need another.

Johnson has too much term remaining for the Kings to consider taking. A number of Kings prospects will need new contracts in 2022, and even more will be looking for a roster spot in the NHL.

The Kings need a veteran defenseman to play big minutes on the 1st pairing with Doughty. Johnson is a boat anchor and would make Doughty's numbers even worse than they were this season. MacDermid is a better option than JJ. If the Kings were to trade for Johnson, he would be demoted to the AHL immediately and wouldn't see another NHL game for the rest of his career.

If the Kings are looking to take on dead space, they'll take on no more than 2 years. They don't need the space in the short term, so the cap hit is largely irrelevant. The obvious target would be a 1st for Loui Eriksson. I'd do that trade before I did a 1st + Bjorqkvist.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.
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According to reports the Hawks do in-fact have interest in Murray, so...


Fake News. Makes ZERO sense. Mike DeFabo with the Pittsburgh Gazette isn't a source either...and clearly not bias. He's just connecting dots without thinking anything through selling papers.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.
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Here's the recent review of Bjorqkvist by Pronman in the Athletic:



https://theathletic.com/2003157/2020/08/24/2020-nhl-organizational-rankings-no-30-pittsburgh-penguins/

The Kings already have more than enough bottom six forward prospects. They don't need another.

Johnson has too much term remaining for the Kings to consider taking. A number of Kings prospects will need new contracts in 2022, and even more will be looking for a roster spot in the NHL.

The Kings need a veteran defenseman to play big minutes on the 1st pairing with Doughty. Johnson is a boat anchor and would make Doughty's numbers even worse than they were this season. MacDermid is a better option than JJ. If the Kings were to trade for Johnson, he would be demoted to the AHL immediately and wouldn't see another NHL game for the rest of his career.

If the Kings are looking to take on dead space, they'll take on no more than 2 years. They don't need the space in the short term, so the cap hit is largely irrelevant. The obvious target would be a 1st for Loui Eriksson. I'd do that trade before I did a 1st + Bjorqkvist.


Every competitive team thrives off of cheap quality bottom-six players. Yes, I know you're saying they have plenty, but he's clearly not the main part of the deal. A 1st round pick for a $3.25M player for three years is fine. They would break this arbitrary two-year-rule you believe for one year to get another first round pick.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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Fake News. Makes ZERO sense. Mike DeFabo with the Pittsburgh Gazette isn't a source either. He's just connecting dots without thinking anything through selling papers.


If you scroll up I stated I read it in the Athletic from a non-Pens writer. The name just escapes me right now. So it's not fake news.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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Every competitive team thrives off of cheap quality bottom-six players. Yes, I know you're saying they have plenty, but he's clearly not the main part of the deal. A 1st round pick for a $3.25M player for three years is fine. They would break this arbitrary two-year-rule you believe for one year to get another first round pick.


Not when there are better options with higher cap hits and shorter term that would also return a 1st. The Kings have $20M in cap space this year, and probably just as much next year when Phaneuf's buyout recapture falls of the books. The dollar amount of the cap dump is irrelevant. The term is what is important.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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Not when there are better options with higher cap hits and shorter term that would also return a 1st. The Kings have $20M in cap space this year, and probably just as much next year when Phaneuf's buyout recapture falls of the books. The dollar amount of the cap dump is irrelevant. The term is what is important.


If it were a bigger hit I'd agree with you, but the big issue with JJ for the Pens isn't so much that cap (which doesn't help), but he's just a blight on the team with his play. The Kings don't need to fill out their lineup with quality if they're being properly compensated. If it was a $5M+ cap hit then I'd agree, no long-term contracts, but three years is manageable.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Wild take that and run, Guerin does feel a bit guilty however.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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If it were a bigger hit I'd agree with you, but the big issue with JJ for the Pens isn't so much that cap (which doesn't help), but he's just a blight on the team with his play. The Kings don't need to fill out their lineup with quality if they're being properly compensated. If it was a $5M+ cap hit then I'd agree, no long-term contracts, but three years is manageable.


But you're missing the point. It could be a $8M cap hit, and it wouldn't be a problem for LA as long as it doesn't extend past 2022. However, with their younger grade-A prospects ending their ELCs in 2022, they don't want to run into problems extending their kids because they have Johnson on the books. That's about the time they're looking to become competitive again, so it could also interfere with UFA signings.

If there weren't other options, then the Kings might consider it. However, there are numerous other options, and a buyers market right now due to the flat cap, so the Kings will have no shortage of short-term, high AAV contracts to target to acquire another 1st round pick if they decide to go that route.

The Pens don't have a 1st in the next two drafts, so it's a moot point anyway.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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But you're missing the point. It could be a $8M cap hit, and it wouldn't be a problem for LA as long as it doesn't extend past 2022. However, with their younger grade-A prospects ending their ELCs in 2022, they don't want to run into problems extending their kids because they have Johnson on the books. That's about the time they're looking to become competitive again, so it could also interfere with UFA signings.

If there weren't other options, then the Kings might consider it. However, there are numerous other options, and a buyers market right now due to the flat cap, so the Kings will have no shortage of short-term, high AAV contracts to target to acquire another 1st round pick if they decide to go that route.

The Pens don't have a 1st in the next two drafts, so it's a moot point anyway.


The point you're missing is that in the last year of his contract he can easily either be buried in the AHL, bought out at little cost or even moved with some retention. And correct, no 1st, but I was just commenting on the general idea.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 6:04 p.m.
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hawks decline. It's not really that close
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