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Nylander go bye bye

Created by: Ekaansh
Initial Creation Date: Sep 28, 2020
Published: Sep 28, 2020 at 8:09
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya2$1,750,000
Malgin, Denis2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason2$800,000
Simmonds, Wayne2$1,125,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Murphy, Connor
CHI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
TOR
  1. Zacha, Pavel
  2. Severson, Damon
  3. 2020 5th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
TOR
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2022 5th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Rodrigues, Evan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 6th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
ARI
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
TOR
VGK
VGK
NJD
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
EDM
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$77,725,750$0$0$3,774,250

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
$2,250,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,125,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
NJD
Severson, Damon
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
ARI
Kuemper, Darcy
$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tavares, J.
Matthews, A.
Marner, M.
Rielly, M.
Severson, D.
Power Play 2
Robertson, N.
Zacha, P.
Barabanov, A.
Sandin, R.
Murphy, C.
Penalty Kill 1
Hyman, Z.
Marner, M.
Muzzin, J.
Holl, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Engvall, P.
Kassian, Z.
Rielly, M.
Murphy, C.

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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:14
#1
Malkinwants2beTheMan
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Kerfoot and a 3rd for Kuemper? Really? It'll cost a 1st to get Kuemper.
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:18
#2
Jeuck75
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Deal from Oilers!!!!!!
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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:22
#3
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These trades are all over the place.

I feel like thats a lot for Connor Murphy

I feel like thats a horrible nylander trade for toronto

no idea what toronto is thinking in the edmonton trade

nothing in that arizona trade interests arizona
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:23
#4
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The Arizona trade is the only one that doesn't just wreck the leafs this is terrible
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:24
#5
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It's brutal all the way around and back again.
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:26
#6
exo2769
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Hawks can't take AJ. AJ would be blocking the development of younger more talented players. there also isn't really any cap benefit and were stuck with that contract for an additional year. Send him to NJ. They need wingers and they have the cap space.
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:28
#7
Thread Starter
Ekaansh_m80
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
These trades are all over the place.

I feel like thats a lot for Connor Murphy

I feel like thats a horrible nylander trade for toronto

no idea what toronto is thinking in the edmonton trade

nothing in that arizona trade interests arizona


Murphy is a very good shut down defenseman that would be a big piece of our lineup, and Severson is a top pairing d-man who can contribute a lot offenseively, and play decent defense. It would only take Nylander to get the Devils' best defenseman in return.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:28
#8
Thread Starter
Ekaansh_m80
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Kerfoot and a 3rd for Kuemper? Really? It'll cost a 1st to get Kuemper.


A 1st??? He's good but come on now.
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:29
#9
Malkinwants2beTheMan
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Quoting: Ekaansh
A 1st??? He's good but come on now.


It's more realistic than Kerfoot and a 3rd.
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:32
#10
exo2769
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Quoting: Ekaansh
A 1st??? He's good but come on now.


Quoting: Letter_Kenny
It's more realistic than Kerfoot and a 3rd.


AZ is in salary trouble...rumoured that they need to shed $10M. Id be willing to bet they'd give you the best bang for your buck for Freddie. AZ gets a starting goalie back and saves a few Mil.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:33
#11
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Ekaansh_m80
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
It's more realistic than Kerfoot and a 3rd.


I added a third? It was supposed to be a 2nd
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:37
#12
Nielsen Is The Goat
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Devils straight up fleecing you
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:37
#13
Malkinwants2beTheMan
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Quoting: exo2769
AZ is in salary trouble...rumoured that they need to shed $10M. Id be willing to bet they'd give you the best bang for your buck for Freddie. AZ gets a starting goalie back and saves a few Mil.

Coyotes still have Raanta. They'd like Freddy's 1 mil in actual salary but he's a pending UFA. Coyotes don't have to trade Kuemper. You have to make it worth their while. Kerfoot and a 2nd or 3rd is a joke.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:39
#14
exo2769
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Coyotes still have Raanta. They'd like Freddy's 1 mil in actual salary but he's a pending UFA. Coyotes don't have to trade Kuemper. You have to make it worth their while. Kerfoot and a 2nd or 3rd is a joke.


I'm not saying starlight up. BUT you do have to trade pieces that other teams want. Other teams want DK.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 8:43
#15
Malkinwants2beTheMan
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Quoting: exo2769
I'm not saying starlight up. BUT you do have to trade pieces that other teams want. Other teams want DK.


No they don't. If Coyotes get lowball offers for Kuemper they simply keep him. That's like saying "Other teams want Nathan McKinnon. Avs better trade him."
Sep 28, 2020 at 8:58
#16
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Quoting: exo2769
AZ is in salary trouble...rumoured that they need to shed $10M. Id be willing to bet they'd give you the best bang for your buck for Freddie. AZ gets a starting goalie back and saves a few Mil.


so they trade the better of their two goalies who both make 4 million and take back salary?

no
Sep 28, 2020 at 9:34
#17
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Devils accept
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Sep 28, 2020 at 9:53
#18
Who adds what?
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Big picture, this lineup has better defense and goaltending than the 19-20 leafs, more grit and skill in the bottom six forwards. The question is whether, when they get a full year playing with Matthews or Tavares, either of Mikheyev or Kassian can can produce the 50-60 points that Nylander is capable of. I'm guessing no, but they each get 40. With better defense and goaltending, that keeps the Leafs right where they are, in the standings.

Take LIljegren out of the Devils trade, at least. They'd probably give you Zacha and Severson for just Nylander. Could throw in more salary if you wanted. They have McLeod ready to try out at 3C, and have too much cash committed to a defense with too much offense and not enough defense, as is. Nylander gives them hope for the future and a roster spot to sign a UFA defensive defenseman, or develop one of the ones they have.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 9:53
#19
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Quoting: Ekaansh
Murphy is a very good shut down defenseman that would be a big piece of our lineup, and Severson is a top pairing d-man who can contribute a lot offenseively, and play decent defense. It would only take Nylander to get the Devils' best defenseman in return.


And it would be a huge loss for TO. Being the best defenceman on a terrible teams doesn't mean you are a great defenceman. Nylander would instantly become the best player in New Jersey while Severson would be at best the 3rd best defenceman on the leafs.
Sep 28, 2020 at 9:54
#20
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Quoting: Eli
Big picture, this lineup has better defense and goaltending than the 19-20 leafs, more grit and skill in the bottom six forwards. The question is whether, when they get a full year playing with Matthews or Tavares, either of Mikheyev or Kassian can can produce the 50-60 points that Nylander is capable of. I'm guessing no, but they each get 40. With better defense and goaltending, that keeps the Leafs right where they are, in the standings.

Take LIljegren out of the Devils trade, at least. They'd probably give you Zacha and Severson for just Nylander. Could throw in more salary if you wanted. They have McLeod ready to try out at 3C, and have too much cash committed to a defense with too much offense and not enough defense, as is. Nylander gives them hope for the future and a roster spot to sign a UFA defensive defenseman, or develop one of the ones they have.


Big picture, deeper on defence yes but way worse up front. Way worse.
Sep 28, 2020 at 9:55
#21
Who adds what?
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Big picture, deeper on defence yes but way worse up front. Way worse.


Zacha>>>Kerfoot at 3C, though?
Sep 28, 2020 at 10:08
#22
Brandon Hagel Stan
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I guess taking in Johnssons contract is worth getting full value for Murphy. However, I want to emphasize that you guys can totally keep him if you want.
Sep 28, 2020 at 10:18
#23
not a dumb Leafs fan
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Ekaansh? lmao cant believe i found this. Im Stlblues_sim from NSL. Is it really u?
Sep 28, 2020 at 10:22
#24
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Quoting: Eli
Zacha>>>Kerfoot at 3C, though?


Probably not much better, but to lose an elite forward for a #3 defenceman and a small upgrade at 3C is poor planning.
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Sep 28, 2020 at 10:50
#25
exo2769
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
so they trade the better of their two goalies who both make 4 million and take back salary?

no


There are a few things that you're missing. A.) No one wants Raanta. B.) AZ needs to shed salary C.) Freddie costs $1M where Darcy still has a total of $9M to be spent over the next 2 years. D.) It'll cost TOR in additional assets in order to get the better goalie. I can't express enough that no one wants Raanta.
 
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