Leafs want a big move

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Created by: jnowariak

Team: 2020-21 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 26, 2020

Published: Sep. 28, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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This is tough and lots of things need to fall in place for this. In order for the Leafs to be able to make this work, they need to clear at least 2 mil more in cap which could be done but won’t be easy. And that’s if they think Dumba is a fit, which I’m not convinced he is. The second thing is Kerfoot, I think his MO is a good fit for the Wild and projects to be serviceable as a 40 point guy in a top 6 role. But the Wild have too many mid tier forwards and I still see them making a move for Domi/Danault/Strome in this case. If Rask is moved, this would make a lot more sense but I like it all the same. We get a serviceable mid six center, a mid 1st and a D man that can play 3rd pair minutes now and grow into a role and compete with Addison.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Belpedio, Louis	2	$800,000
Falkovsky, Stepan	2	$800,000
Warner, Hunter	2	$800,000
Robson, Mat	2	$800,000
Menell, Brennan	2	$800,000
Sturm, Nico	2	$1,000,000
Greenway, Jordan	2	$2,000,000
Kunin, Luke	3	$2,500,000
Kähkönen, Kaapo	3	$1,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Soucy, Carson		3	$2,000,000

Trades

MIN

2020 2nd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Place holder for an expected Greenway move.

MTL

Greenway, Jordan

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$71,486,091	$0	$1,325,000	$10,013,909

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Fiala, Kevin $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, C RFA - 2
Kaprizov, Kirill $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Zuccarello, Mats $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 4
Parise, Zach $7,538,462$7,538,462 LW NMC UFA - 5	Eriksson Ek, Joel $1,487,500$1,487,500 C UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Foligno, Marcus $2,875,000$2,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 2	Hartman, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Donato, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $7,538,462$7,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 5	Spurgeon, Jared $7,575,000$7,575,000 RD NMC UFA - 7	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD NMC UFA - 1	Soucy, Carson $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Belpedio, Louis $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2	Dubnyk, Devan $2,166,667$2,166,667 G M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Rask, Victor $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2		Pateryn, Greg $2,250,000$2,250,000 RD UFA - 1
Hunt, Brad $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Sep. 28, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.

SammyT_51

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No, they dont want Dumba.

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.

tony135420

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That’s more than I’d want to pay for Dumba, but that’s probably close to what it will cost

Sep. 28, 2020 at 4:59 p.m.

Caerii

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Toronto deal is bad

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: Caerii

Toronto deal is bad

May I ask for what side?

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Caerii

Toronto deal is bad

For Toronto. Dumba is an overpriced 2nd pair defenceman

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.

OutCold13

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Is Liljegren expansion draft exempt. If he is I'm interested if not its a no for me. Very interested in your Vegas trade.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.

Caerii

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Quoting: jnowariak

May I ask for what side?

For Minnesota

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: Paul13

Is Liljegren expansion draft exempt. If he is I'm interested if not its a no for me. Very interested in your Vegas trade.

He is and I really think he would compete for 3rd line duty opening night and fill in next year on the second pair if Soucy gets picked. I'm pushing the Vegas deal hard. Fleury wants to be a number 1 and he would be a great mentor, not to mention the Guerin connection. We get a prospect since we clear the whole amount of cap.

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.

Caerii

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Quoting: jnowariak

He isn't. Next season is his fourth professional season.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Caerii

For Minnesota

This is the type of return we should expect from Dumba, a pick that starts with 1X and a good prospect. This deal might return a tad more since Kerfoot is a dump for Toronto, but I like him.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: jnowariak

This is the type of return we should expect from Dumba, a pick that starts with 1X and a good prospect. This deal might return a tad more since Kerfoot is a dump for Toronto, but I like him.

If this is the return, we keep Dumba. Why the hell would we trade him if we're just going to get another RD back?

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Caerii

He isn't. Next season is his fourth professional season.

You need 70 games over 2 seasons, he's exempt.

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Caerii

If this is the return, we keep Dumba. Why the hell would we trade him if we're just going to get another RD back?

Because this right D is 20 years old and we really have no depth beyond Addison. I assume Menell will move at the deadline or in the offseason.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.

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NR1203

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Leafs don't want Dumba. Not the style of defenceman they need right now.

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: NR1203

Leafs don't want Dumba. Not the style of defenceman they need right now.

Probably not, just looking at what Minnesota should expect if Dubas wants another big D in the organization.

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: jnowariak

You need 70 games over 2 seasons, he's exempt.

I have no idea where you got this information, but the rule is that teams need to expose at least one defensemen who has played 40 games in 2020-21 or 70 combined between 2019-20 and 2020-21.
The rule is not that anyone with less than 70 games played is exempt.

The rule regarding exemption is two or less professional seasons. Liljegren has four.

He is not exempt.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.

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Caerii

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Quoting: jnowariak

Because this right D is 20 years old and we really have no depth beyond Addison. I assume Menell will move at the deadline or in the offseason.

We don't need depth, we need scoring forwards, not defensemen that can't play defense.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.

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NR1203

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Quoting: jnowariak

Probably not, just looking at what Minnesota should expect if Dubas wants another big D in the organization.

For the right D I would 100% part with that package

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Caerii

He still has 2 years left on his ELC....

He may have played 4 years of professional, but contractually he's a rook.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: NR1203

For the right D I would 100% part with that package

I think its a reasonable package, a first and a good prospect. Seems like a reasonable package for an established top 4 d man or top 6 forward, unless you're Rutherford and you really want the 3rd liner you drafted years ago...

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Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:22 p.m.

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As a hardcore Leafs fan, there's no way I'm trading Kerfoot, Liljegren and this year's 1st round pick in exchange for Dumba. For starters, we would have to move Andreas Johnsson along with Kerfoot to afford Dumba's $6m cap hit. Secondly, we need a more defensive guy than what Dumba provides... and the only year where hsi dZS% was higher than his oZS%, he was awful with a 46.9% Corsi. No thanks!

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Misterrainer

Yeah, its challenging for all of those reasons like I stated. The Wild don't need Kerfoot, but he would have to be part of the package to clear the cap.

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.

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Quoting: jnowariak

The Wild don't need Kerfoot, but he would have to be part of the package to clear the cap.

So who is the target in your Dumba trade? Liljegren and the 15th overall pick this year?

Sep. 28, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: Misterrainer

So who is the target in your Dumba trade? Liljegren and the 15th overall pick this year?

Yeah, I think that's fair value if Toronto was interested. The deals that the Wild made earlier make Kerfoot redundant but I'm cognizant of the cap so I made sure to put Kerfoot/Johnsson in the deal to make it more palatable in that sense. I'm saying this with the belief that Kerfoot would make the Wild better, but it jams up our forward group.

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