even without Liljegren, leafs still decline. then you include him in the deal? really bad trade for TO

He had one 4th place Selke vote.

Umm he had 3 votes. Still had Zelke votes. M.Marner had 1 vote.

He had 1 4th place vote, worth 3 points.

I bet A lot of Pens fans have different opinions. But ya, I respect your opinion. that’s why I did the trade. Even though Liljegren has lost his shine as a prospects a bit, I still think he’s gonna be a solid NHL D-man.

Blueger, Riikola and a 3rd for Kerfoot, Pens easily say no. The Pens organization thinks highly of Riikola. That’s why they gave him that contract. They think he’s a solid NHL D. That plays, like I said in the description, the LHD and RHD equally as well.

The award is called the 'Selke', and Blueger had one 4th place vote.

Right, lol. Sorry, it’s auto correct. I know it’s Selke.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2020.html#all-selke-stats

All B.Tanev, ZAR and Blueger had votes. M.Marner had 1 vote

Whatever the "Zelke" is, he should get votes for it....
say it right and it sounds like a best dressed award lol

but seriously, Blueger is a great defensive C with #3C potential.

if TOR didn't have like 17 #6-#9 Defensemen Riikola would b a good fit. I bet Dubas has looked at him in case they have like the plague or something hit ONLY the LHD...

And still not a lie. Blusher had “Selke” votes last year in his 2nd year. Look at the link. 3 votes bud.

Lol, best Defensive Forward, some say “best two-way Forward is the Selke trophy. Ya, I knew it’s Selke. It was my spell correct autocorrect changing it to Zelke.

You wanna provide the link you tell me to look at?

autocorrect is horrible.
above rn it says blushed instead of blueger lol

huh it's weird how many players get voted for for the "Zelke" (sorry can't stop calling it that) on one list.
blueger--
1 4th place
1 5th place
but 4 total votes....
he put the link above...in a comment

@HockeyTownUSA69

Disregard my last comment, I see that you edited in the link in one of your previous comments.

Your link confirms what I said, bud. One 4th place vote.

Lol. My old Dr’s last name was Zeilke..lol.

Perfect. I just looked at the hockey reference page and saw 4 total votes. The page I copy and pasted a link too.

Yes, all Tanev/Blueger/ZAR received votes

He only has one 4th place vote. No 5th place. Total of 3 points as that's what a 4th place vote is worth in the point system that determines the winner.

I might be the leafs fan that is highest on blueger. I was looking at the trade and thinking that is something I might consider but dubas wouldn’t.... then I saw he added liljegren... YIKES!

Pens easily say no to Blueger/Rikkola/ and a 3rd for kerfoot.

Also blueger is 26...

Ya, you’re right. For some reason I thought he was turning 25 this year!!

jokes on all of you, matthews is get more selke votes than both marner and blueger next year

I could see that, no need for riikola, figures he was just there for cap purposes.

Kerfoot had a down season last year and I get that. The offers for him have been pretty horrible. He is the leafs 5th best forward and the fastest player on the team. Plays great defensively too. Also gets under people’s skin. This is what he can do when he isn’t producing. Expecting him to bounce back this year in that column.

Leafs fans underestimate him as much as every other fan base. So I get where you are coming from. He is certainly worth more than Kapanen. I think at this point in the offseason it doesn’t seem like anyone has value... even UFA’s so trading a player they need and not getting the proper return back just makes little sense for Toronto.

And I think the Pens organization thinks way more highly of Riikola than a lot of fans do!! He isn’t as highly as regarded as Lehtonen coming from Russia, But he was a good Defensive FA signing coming over. And played well his 1st two years in the NHL. Like I said, that 1.1M contract was a reward from the Pens. And he plays both the LHD and RHD just as well. That’s a valuable trait for a defender.

But I agree. Obviously, it’s why I made the trade..lol. I think Kerfoot and Liljegren make the Pens a better team. I just thought McCann was too much. And a prospect and a 2nd round pick wouldn’t interest Toronto more than Blueger IMO. Toronto needing Defensive help and toughness.

And yes, Leafs fans on here, ACGM, have all been dumping Keefoot like he’s a salary dump!! Lol!!