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TSN are idiots

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 25, 2020
Published: Nov. 25, 2020
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Tavares is not a bad contract. He's a bonafied number one center, point per game, 35-40 goals every year.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
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Ever heard of the aging process? probably the main element they we're discussing.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:19 a.m.
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Wings do not want any of your depth players. Stop.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.
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Wings pass, makes no sense for the red wings to trade draft picks at this time
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:37 a.m.
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JT it’s only a question if he can cover the bet over the term or not. Many contracts became more questionable with the cap becoming flat suddenly can’t fault teams for not seeing that coming. Good signing thus far.
Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:41 a.m.
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It's as if they make their money on clicks
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 9:55 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.
Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Ever heard of the aging process? probably the main element they we're discussing.


That’s it exactly. Tavares was the top star ufa. You do what you need to get them signed. Tavares will never be a “good contract” best you can hope for is that he ages of well, leads well and his contract is never a burden. For the next 2-4 years his contract should be fair. After that... it’s the price you pay for getting a star for free.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
That’s it exactly. Tavares was the top star ufa. You do what you need to get them signed. Tavares will never be a “good contract” best you can hope for is that hole ages of well, leads well and his contract is never a burden. For the next 2-4 years his contract should be fair. After that... it’s the price you pay for getting a star for free.


I agree. You never turn down a superstar/star. Especially for free. The potential ramifications are obviously to be dealt in the future and rarely the main topic of discussion.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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The NHL Channel had him in their top 20.
Nov. 25, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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So you think his contract is good?
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
That’s it exactly. Tavares was the top star ufa. You do what you need to get them signed. Tavares will never be a “good contract” best you can hope for is that hole ages of well, leads well and his contract is never a burden. For the next 2-4 years his contract should be fair. After that... it’s the price you pay for getting a star for free.


I agree completly. He's overpaid but that's fine.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
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TSN are idiots? Maybe, but remember all sports talk shows are "entertainment" shows not sports shows. What talking heads say...often don't have significance in fact.

Tavares wasn't overpaid as a UFA. The Leafs overpaid Matthews, Nylander and Marner by a total of 5m when compared to similar RFAs with the same term at the time of signing.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
The NHL Channel had him in their top 20.


Do you disagree?
Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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Well he’s overpaid and he’s not a point per game player or a consistent 35-40 goal scorer. He’s only reached PPG 4 times in 11 seasons and 35+ goals 3 times.
Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.
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Well he’s overpaid and he’s not a point per game player or a consistent 35-40 goal scorer. He’s only reached PPG 4 times in 11 seasons and 35+ goals 3 times.


I was just about to post that lol.
Nov. 25, 2020 at 11:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
That’s it exactly. Tavares was the top star ufa. You do what you need to get them signed. Tavares will never be a “good contract” best you can hope for is that he ages of well, leads well and his contract is never a burden. For the next 2-4 years his contract should be fair. After that... it’s the price you pay for getting a star for free.


This is so true, it is one of the reasons Montreal has such a hard time signing UFA's their GM's only want to pay players their value on terms they like. They don't understand that you need to give to get. If MB had offered Hall 9 Mil x 7 years I am sure Hall would be a Hab right now. Hall would still be good through 5-6 of those years but maybe the last 1-2 years he starts to fall off. That is where trades with retained money come in. The Leafs can trade Tavares (providing he waives) in the last 1 or 2 years of his contract retaining half of it and teams would be interested.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Do you disagree?


With what TSN of the NHL Channel?
Nov. 25, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.
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With what TSN of the NHL Channel?


With the nhl channel having him in the top 20 centres (I guess now that's you mention it, both).
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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With the nhl channel having him in the top 20 centres (I guess now that's you mention it, both).


Haven't really thought about it much but yeah I agree with the NHL Channel he is deffinately one of the top 20 centers in the league. With TSN no I don't agree. Now I do understand the point they are trying to make but come on he is only 30 and playing as good as he ever has. It's far too early to even suggest that. These lists are just someones opinion and not worth getting up set over it.
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Nov. 25, 2020 at 7:36 p.m.
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Haven't really thought about it much but yeah I agree with the NHL Channel he is deffinately one of the top 20 centers in the league. With TSN no I don't agree. Now I do understand the point they are trying to make but come on he is only 30 and playing as good as he ever has. It's far too early to even suggest that. These lists are just someones opinion and not worth getting up set over it.


Yes, I agree with this 100%.
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