The leafs bias is REAL.
Good joke

my point being that they don't both make 900K

people seem to think the pay difference is indicative that vesey sucks big time, but 1. kappy wasn't that great when he was here and 2. vesey, despite playing on the worse team in the NHL still put up respectable numbers

would you rather have kappy or vesey, simmonds, thornton, bogosian, anderson, and mikheyev?

Do you guys think this team is strong enough to win the cup?

If they were both making 900k... I would take kappy back all day long. Vesey has a bit of potential though. Certainly not upset about that signing.

"The Rangers got great value out of Laffy’s ELC as they watched him pot a boat load of goals and points. He capped the three years off by scoring over a point per game game in a contract year. A huge reason as to why this overpay occurred is because of Laffys platform year. Using points to evaluate forwards is a bit reductive, but the fact is, points are what get players paid, and Laffy had lots of them.

The Rangers signed Artemi Panarin as an unrestricted free agent in July 2019 to a seven-year contract at an $11 642 857M annual cap hit. If they could have signed him for just a little bit less – say, a $10.5M cap hit – that would have not just saved them that money, it also would have set a lower precedent for the other key players that they knew they would need to sign in the near future: Kaako last year, Laffy and buchnevich this summer.
It’s the Rangers management that they should be angry with, because they set the wheels in motion last year by caving in to the demands of Kaako – a player who hadn’t proven that he is as valuable to the team’s success as Laffy now has proven himself to be."

do you see how silly it sounds in other contexts?

Tavares already took a paycut to come to toronto of like 2-3M, why is he taking even less? How does a 28 year old franchise centre signing a deal impact what a 90+ point winger and a 40-50 goal scoring centre ask for? Nylander was and continues to be an elite winger, a play-driving, play-making, sniping winger who takes faceoffs and is damn good at them.

my point being that they don't both make 900K

people seem to think the pay difference is indicative that vesey sucks big time, but 1. kappy wasn't that great when he was here and 2. vesey, despite playing on the worse team in the NHL still put up respectable numbers

would you rather have kappy or vesey, simmonds, thornton, bogosian, anderson, and mikheyev?

Vesey has "potential" (but won't) while Kappy is already there. Little Jimmy will show the Leafs how to win a playoff round

all these players combined make way more than Kap... what are you saying? and kappy was good in toronto despite what you're saying now. I remember back in the spring leafs fans all wanted a first for Kappy. now apparently he sucks. unbelievable

I don’t understand why leaf fans feel the need to ask this question everyday when the answer is always no

all these players combined make way more than Kap... what are you saying? and kappy was good in toronto despite what you're saying now. I remember back in the spring leafs fans all wanted a first for Kappy. now apparently he sucks. unbelievable

Thinking he was going with money above replacement. Even then you wouldn’t fit everyone here.

sry, got that talking point mixed up with johnsson + kappy

just in terms of kappy's 3.2M though, vesey simmonds and thornton I would much rather have over just kappy

also, I never wanted a first for kappy, no doubt some did. He was hilariously over valued here and that showed even after he was traded. He had a rep as this scrappy winger who in reality was lazy, one dimensional and more often than not took stupid penalties. He put up decent numbers with matthews, but even then, he's a third liner playing first line minutes, he's not a top 6 winger

sry, got that talking point mixed up with johnsson + kappy

just in terms of kappy's 3.2M though, vesey simmonds and thornton I would much rather have over just kappy

also, I never wanted a first for kappy, no doubt some did. He was hilariously over valued here and that showed even after he was traded. He had a rep as this scrappy winger who in reality was lazy, one dimensional and more often than not took stupid penalties. He put up decent numbers with matthews, but even then, he's a third liner playing first line minutes, he's not a top 6 winger

Can you read?
My point was Tavares’s contract set the table for the Marner contract. Are you telling me that he still scores 94 points and gets 10.89 without JT on the Leafs. Give me a break

Kap will be a legit top 6 guy on pit. Kap is also worth way more than Vesey/simmonds/thornton. gimme a break. Simmonds and Thornton are so passed their prime. Kap is one of the most UNDERRATED players on this site. people like you think hes a mediocre 3rd liner when thats just not the case. Hes scored 20+ goals and 40+ points being shuffled all over the lineup from first line with matthews to 3rd line when Nylander came back. once he has a solid fit on Crosby's wing on pittsburgh he will be putting up a 20+ goal 50+ point pace which is top 6 in my book

Kap will be a legit top 6 guy on pit. Kap is also worth way more than Vesey/simmonds/thornton. gimme a break. Simmonds and Thornton are so passed their prime. Kap is one of the most UNDERRATED players on this site. people like you think hes a mediocre 3rd liner when thats just not the case. Hes scored 20+ goals and 40+ points being shuffled all over the lineup from first line with matthews to 3rd line when Nylander came back. once he has a solid fit on Crosby's wing on pittsburgh he will be putting up a 20+ goal 50+ point pace which is top 6 in my book

Kap will be a legit top 6 guy on pit. Kap is also worth way more than Vesey/simmonds/thornton. gimme a break. Simmonds and Thornton are so passed their prime. Kap is one of the most UNDERRATED players on this site. people like you think hes a mediocre 3rd liner when thats just not the case. Hes scored 20+ goals and 40+ points being shuffled all over the lineup from first line with matthews to 3rd line when Nylander came back. once he has a solid fit on Crosby's wing on pittsburgh he will be putting up a 20+ goal 50+ point pace which is top 6 in my book

marner wanted matthews money. that's the simple matter of it - that and he absolutely despised babs and was not in any mood to take a pay cut

Matthews earned his contract, 40 goals in his rookie year and year after year, despite missing games was easily a top 5 goal scorer



matthews wanted mcdavid money, he got it but over 5 years, marner wanted that. Tavares didn't factor in. Eventually marner compromised (while turning down more lucrative offer sheets from other teams) and took about a million-ish less and signed for one extra year

he played over half of his 5v5 ice time with one of matthews or JT in 18-19, I'd hope he could muster up 20 goals lmao



I'll never forget when we tried to play kappy with JT at the start of 19-20 and he absolute murdered the line and we had to bury him back on the third line

Assuming you’re a Pitt fan, I think kapanen will be great on Pittsburgh. He just didn’t have a place where he meshed well on Toronto and was pretty much useless when he was put in roles out of his comfort zone. However I think with his elite skill set and having Crosby to mentor him on his decision making and seeing the ice (kapanens biggest weakness), he’ll be really impressive hopefully. I do disagree about him not having the value of thornton Vesey etc. Individually he hes the most valuable of those players, but having all of those guys combined at the same cap hit as kapanen is a huge huge win for Toronto IMO

I actually think this guy does some really good Leaf content. He does a whole vid series on this. Don’t have to watch it all, I’ll even tee up where to tune in. 6:50min

https://youtu.be/p8mkQqODFsc

It’s not like I’m alone in this thought process 😂

I don’t understand why leaf fans feel the need to ask this question everyday when the answer is always no

Yo I love downstown sports, I watch his videos lol

imo he's making a different point though - if marner doesn't score 94 points and has another year of 70 points playing with a worse player - yeah ofc he takes less

but are we mad at JT now for elevating our team and making our players better lmao?

I'm thrilled that JT was able to come in and pot 47 goals and elevate marner to an uber high end level

marner wanted matthews money. that's the simple matter of it - that and he absolutely despised babs and was not in any mood to take a pay cut

Matthews earned his contract, 40 goals in his rookie year and year after year, despite missing games was easily a top 5 goal scorer



matthews wanted mcdavid money, he got it but over 5 years, marner wanted that. Tavares didn't factor in. Eventually marner compromised (while turning down more lucrative offer sheets from other teams) and took about a million-ish less and signed for one extra year

It's not "Leafs fans" it's one guy making ACGMs over and over again with the Marner contract being the talking point.

Most Leafs fans have long moved on and so this one twat keeps Capfriendly busy with his one idea over and over again.