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barzal update

Created by: Isles777
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 3, 2021
Published: Jan. 3, 2021
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He wants 10 mill on a long term deal according to NRD on twitter. Just give it to him...
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1$850,000
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21$81,500,000$78,063,334$0$1,075,000$3,436,666
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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$700,000$700,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
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LW
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,425,000$1M$1,425,000$1M)
LD
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$3,000,000$3,000,000 ($1,925,000$2M$1,925,000$2M)
RW, LW, C
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UFA - 2

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Jan. 3, 2021 at 8:57 p.m.
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777



I’d take barzal on a 8x10 deal anyday. But, I don’t know how NYI cap situation is. I’d think 7.5m for 3 years is fair no? Maybe even 7.5m for 2? Just get a deal done. Lou is such a nitpicker too haha, if barzal is too stubborn this might go past the RFA deadline as Lou doesn’t change his mind too fast.
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:00 p.m.
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Barzal isn't worth that kind of money at the moment. If he were say Crosby/Ovechkin/McDavid, no problem giving him that. Right now though...massive overpay.
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:01 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
Barzal isn't worth that kind of money at the moment. If he were say Crosby/Ovechkin/McDavid, no problem giving him that. Right now though...massive overpay.


Marner got it and Barzal is better
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.
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I’d take barzal on a 8x10 deal anyday. But, I don’t know how NYI cap situation is. I’d think 7.5m for 3 years is fair no? Maybe even 7.5m for 2? Just get a deal done. Lou is such a nitpicker too haha, if barzal is too stubborn this might go past the RFA deadline as Lou doesn’t change his mind too fast.


They can afford to give him 10 mill. I don't think it goes past next weekend, but then hell just get a bridge. I'd rather sign him long term.
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:03 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Marner got it and Barzal is better


So Base one guys pay on someone else’s overpay not if I’m Lou
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Marner got it and Barzal is better


Kucherov only got 9.5 x8 he’s BETTER
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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"Pay me like Matthews"
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:08 p.m.
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The Wild or Rangers could OS Barzal. The Isles should lock him up as soon as possible
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
Kucherov only got 9.5 x8 he’s BETTER

Kucherov is underpaid we all know this don’t use his contract as an example
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:09 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
"Pay me like Matthews"


I wouldn't want 10 x 5, but on a 7-8 year deal? Sign me up.
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
The Wild or Rangers could OS Barzal. The Isles should lock him up as soon as possible


Guerin probably wouldn't offersheet one of Lou's players and the rangers can't afford to OS him more than 8-8.5 mill with all their bonuses from ELC's
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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Ummm he’s worth 8 max, his rookie season was great but I’m not giving 10 a year to a guy who hasn’t topped 90
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Theozler
Ummm he’s worth 8 max, his rookie season was great but I’m not giving 10 a year to a guy who hasn’t topped 90


The only reason he doesn't put up 85-90 pts is because of trotz system.
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles555
Kucherov is underpaid we all know this don’t use his contract as an example


Kucherov and Stone also got less state tax to pay
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:14 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Kucherov and Stone also got less state tax to pay

I didn’t even wanna get into that cause people on this site seems to refuse to acknowledge it’s a competitive advantage
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Guerin probably wouldn't offersheet one of Lou's players and the rangers can't afford to OS him more than 8-8.5 mill with all their bonuses from ELC's


Rangers could dump Brendan Smith to get around 10 mil to offer sheet Barzal. Why wouldn't Guerin OS Lou's players? Their #1 center right now is Marcus Johansson
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles555
Kucherov is underpaid we all know this don’t use his contract as an example


If I’m Lou Lamoriello i point to that then compare him to Point .88ppg Barzal .88 ppg and point got 6.75
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Rangers could dump Brendan Smith to get around 10 mil to offer sheet Barzal. Why wouldn't Guerin OS Lou's players? Their #1 center right now is Marcus Johansson


I’m pretty sure guerin and Lou are close - the rangers would have to give up a significant asset to get rid of smith and the isles wouldn’t have to move anyone to match a 10 mill OS
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
The only reason he doesn't put up 85-90 pts is because of trotz system.


Maybe, but I’m still not shelling out for what could be.
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
I’m pretty sure guerin and Lou are close - the rangers would have to give up a significant asset to get rid of smith and the isles wouldn’t have to move anyone to match a 10 mill OS


Do you think Barzal could pull a PLD and request a trade, not being happy in Trotz's defensive system?
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
The Wild or Rangers could OS Barzal. The Isles should lock him up as soon as possible


Quoting: Isles777
Guerin probably wouldn't offersheet one of Lou's players and the rangers can't afford to OS him more than 8-8.5 mill with all their bonuses from ELC's


Quoting: Devil1122
Rangers could dump Brendan Smith to get around 10 mil to offer sheet Barzal. Why wouldn't Guerin OS Lou's players? Their #1 center right now is Marcus Johansson


For two reasons.

1) Guerin is on record saying he dislikes offer sheets, because they harm a GM's relationship with that organization. They would never be able to work with them again.

Plus.... you don't piss off Lou Freakin' Lamoriello.

2) As any good GM understands. Relationships are key, and the primary weapon of any competent general manager.
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles555
Kucherov is underpaid we all know this don’t use his contract as an example


Are you saying Lou is to stupid to make the argument do you want every dime or cups?
Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:35 p.m.
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Overpay for this year but will be a good contract in 2-3 years
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Jan. 3, 2021 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Do you think Barzal could pull a PLD and request a trade, not being happy in Trotz's defensive system?


I highly doubt it. I’m sure he wants more offensive freedom (and I actually think there will end up being a comprise between him and trotz to let him take more risks) but the pros outweigh the cons. Even if he did request a trade , I don’t think the isles would move him. The owners aren’t opening up a new arena next season without barzal , they’d lose a ton of money

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