Every team says no

You are out of your mind if you think EDM does that trade.

Until we see Kane on the block, it's just a "medium" rebuild

I mean, they strengthen their defense and their depth, their biggest weaknesses, via this trade, while confirming that they won't lose important assets during the expansion draft.

If they view themselves as a playoff team, they need to do some moves. This is one idea.

See what TB paid for Coleman for instance. Murphy at 50% retained is close to that in terms of money, and in terms of player value I'd say Murphy is above Coleman.

Well true.

Wild gm refused to trade dumba for Vincent Trocheck, he refused to trade dumba for Sean Monahan. So wild gm isn't trading for Dylan strome. Wild can get better c through trade or free agency once the expansion date comes & passes.

If Dubas would want anyone from Chicago its Pius Suter lul. Give Matthews his Lions brother and make the Suter-Matthews-Marner line. The other person I would have said is Murphy but Holl is playing some incredible hockey so I dont think its needed.

If Toews gets put onto LTIR and is done. Then he doesn't need to be protected, thereby freeing up a spot anyway. Buying out Seabrook would essentially free up two protection spots not just the one if Toews is also LTIR'ed.

That is also a massive overpayment for Strome.

That's a insta-no from Guerin, and while I don't like Rask, he is more or less a serviceable 4th line center even if he’s barely a NHL caliber level player only half the time. The issue is more to do with the fact he’s overpaid not really anything else. What he lacks in speed he kinda makes up for with his decent shot and a penchant for scoring at critical moments. Ironically, if he was paid like $2M less, nobody would care or **** about him. He's also a pretty cheap buyout, so this idea that a team would be doing us a favor and could demand a 1st for him is kinda silly.

Drop the 1st, retain half on Rask, and swap out Sokolov for someone better. Sokolov is pretty much a bust at this point, so switch him for someone like Firstov to even out the trade value.

Rask (50% retained)
Firstov
2022 2nd (MIN)

For

Strome
2022 5th (CHI)

Hawks aren't moving Strome for a bag of magic beans. He's easily the best player in the AGM and better then Firstov and a mid to late 1st or 2nd is nothing more then magic beans in a very shallow draft in the first and 2nd rounds. In last year's draft, maybe strome for a mid first, but otherwise keep Strome. Very few 23 year olds are putting up points at rate of .75ppg, and that's exactly what Dylan has been doing since becoming a Hawk. Very hard to find that in a B+ prospect, a 2nd round pick, a late 1st or even a mid 1st in the 2021 draft. Giant crap shoot not worth taking. Bottom line, Hawks have zero reason to move Strome. A year or two from now, Dach will eventually be the 1C, Strome the 2C, and Toews (if he comes back) the 3C; that's a pretty strong middle for the next few years.

What the f*ck does Dumba have to do with this? He's not included in the exchange in the slightest.

It's Sokolov+1st for Strome, and a 2nd for taking Rask's contract off Wild's hands.

That counteroffer is a joke. Strome is absolutely worth more than two 2nd rounders and a cap dump.

The initial offer is, as said previously, Sokolov+1st for Strome, which imo is fair for a 24 year old 50 point C. CHI agrees to take Rask's whole contract for a 2nd, like DET did with Staal.

Can't see Suter moving. ExD exempt young C. Very valuable for CHI.

How is it any different than what the original offer was.

Overpayed 4th liner
A draft bust (Failed Prospect)
Unprotected 1st
2022 2nd rounder

OR

Same 4th liner at actual payed value
Player with middle six potential (B-level Prospect)
2022 2nd rounder

Strome is better than his brother, there is no doubt about that. Doesn't change the fact that like his brother he's a middle sixer and not a top six center.

He hit 51 points once, and benefited from playing with Kane. And hasn’t been close since. He might be a 40 point player, and even if he is, I wouldn't give up a unprotected 1st for him. His brother did much the same with Panarin. Would you give up a unprotected 1st for Ryan Strome?

Until I see otherwise, I maintain Dylan had a career year riding the coattails of one of the leagues best wingers.

Hell, Jason Zucker once scored 60+ points in a season. Does that make him a 60 point player then? Zucker could no doubt be a consistent 50 point player playing in the Penguins top six, doubt he would do so on the Wild.

I could see a scenario where Strome hits 40 on a regular basis if he gels with one of Fiala or Kaprizov. But let's not pretend he isn't anything more then a low-end 2C.

I'd absolutely take that first package. Nothing in the second package is likely turning into something, but with first rounders the possibility is much higher. I don't think anyone views two seconds being as valuable as one first rounder.

One year of Rask at fourth line production won't change much. See Bjugstad for instance. Getting him from PIT half retained cost you a grand total of 7th round pick. It doesn't matter if his value in a vacuum goes from 0,5 to 1 in the scale of x/100.

Also, Strome was in pace for 53 points last year on a normal length year. He's a good 2C for pretty much any team, and relatively young at that. If CHI isn't getting a first for the guy, they'd rather just keep him than take such an useless punt.

Read it again instead of cussing people. Minnesota isn't paying or trading for Dylan strome or care about moving rask

Sorry about the language. Just don't see any correlation between the players MIN might be after and what is Dumba's perceiced value for the Wild.

I don't see any clear reason why Wild wouldn't be interested in Strome.

Because he isn't better than trocheck, or sean Monahan that Minnesota gm has said no to

While I agree that MIN won't trade Dumba for whatever reasons to those guys, what correlation that has on a Sokolov+1st for Strome trade?

Are you implying that Dumba's value = Sokolov+1st?

I am just telling you that Vincent trocheck, & Sean Monahan are better c's than strome. being that wild gm didn't want them, he wouldn't be interested in Dylan strome

One thing - I'm almost certain that Wild did WANT one of them. What they didn't want is to pay the amount their respective teams wanted for those guys.

Strome could come cheaper than these guys, and has the potential to surpass one of them. Still only 24, relatively young guy.

True but when toews and dach come back they may move him. Cause stroke, toews and dach will be the top 9