I don’t like the Gibson or Lafferty trade

Gibson is not getting traded. He is an amazing goalie and the ducks are actually doing pretty good.

Is it Groundhog day?

Ottawa doesn't need Pettersson, or want Sceviour.

This feels like Deja Vu

You wouldn't get Gibson without likely including Guentzel to start.

Sens don't have need for a d-man with their prospects coming, so try giving them a top 6 prospect.

Preds are pretty set at centre depth. & if they're looking for a 4th line centre they can get one for free in free agency.

What's Detroit sending back to Pittsburgh? Lafferty is a decent depth piece that I'm sure Pittsburgh wouldn't have to pay to give up.

Leafs flat out reject. Holl is better, cheaper, and can stay healthier better than Letang. They're not throwing in a 1st to Pittsburgh as a gift.

Blais and Rust would have pretty similar value. Rust is highly carried by his linemmates so his values is quite inflated in Pittsburgh. Definitely not the difference of a 1st round pick as a gift again.

I agree with most of what you said but I don't questions a few points... With a few trade rumours surrounding Gibson I wonder what it would take if ANA was ready to trade him and start a full blown rebuild, right now it's more of a retool but realistically they won't be pursuing a cup anytime soon, so why not trade for something while you can and although I do think they can get more then what is offered here, I feel like they will look for futures opposed to players in their prime.

And Letang is 3 times the offensive defenceman Holl is, if he said healthy on a team with some much offence he could put up career numbers, where as Holl just doesn't have that gear. Hit cap hit is brutal though, half retains or even a few mil would make him a solid trade target for a team seriously pursuing the cup

I agree ANA is performing better then expected but they won't be pursuing a cup, they should go into rebuild mode and get what they can for a few pieces while they can, Gibson would fetch them the best return. As an Oilers fan I wouldn't be upset if we paid hansomly for him

1) Gibson for Guentzel + Jarry would be the base of the deal

2) Sure its letang, but we don't need an offensive defenceman. Holl and Muzzin works, I don't want to touch our D.

The "trade him while you can because you won't win the Stanley Cup anytime soon so you might as well get something" is fine if there is a facsimile replacement on the horizon (i.e., in the system already). For example, that's a reasonable approach towards Letang because you have Marino. Speaking of whom, he and Guentzel would be essential elements of any trade for Gibson, and it wouldn't end there no matter what some of your fellow Pens fans may say.

Teams don't trade gems absent exigent circumstances. All those star players (who, by the way, were not just great on the ice but also "heart-and-soul" types, which Gibson is) were traded either due to injury (Orr), team emergency (Gretzky), or demanded a trade (Roy). That's why Trevor Linden never got traded from a bad team and Sidney Crosby won't be traded from Pittsburgh, and lots of players in between those examples.

What’s the incentive for ANA to do this trade? There is no special piece coming back for one of the best goalies in the league. They trade Gibson they are going full rebuild why would they want any of those players? And please somebody tell me why Pens fan think Riikola has any trade value to other teams? He is a 27yr old that has played 75 career games.

Letang isn't 3x the offensive d-man Holl is, Letang's reputation is. Teams aren't paying for reputation. Holl has been great for Toronto in his roll and Letang is a lateral move at best, and with Holl's contract being better by far, the value swings dramatically in Holl's favour. This isn't 2015, Letang isn't elite anymore.

Holl is not in the same tier as Letang, Holl has played well on a team that's playing well. Letang would make the team 3x more lethal. Cap hit is bad but with retention it changes the game entirely

I understand you can compare Gibson's and ANA situation to some of those Hall of famers. But Gibson hasn't out him self into that category yet, he hasn't won anything and he probably won't with ANA unless they can pull off some serious steals in trades and hit every draft pick. He's 27, has a m-ntc that kicks in next season. I know there is no rush in trading him but ANA should listen to calls. And unless ANA plans on flipping Jake G after acquiring him,what's the point of to reading for him, ANA should be looking for futures and prospects. Or younger players breaking out that will contribute to the rebuild and keep the team competitive for longer

"futures and prospects" instead of Jake Guentzel?!? JG is signed for 3 more seasons after this one, as shown above, and would be the third-best forward on YOUR team. Why in the world would we prefer pigs-in-a-poke to him?

white does not get you MP. It might get you Matheson. But I doubt that at this point.

It's also an overpay for Gibson.
You don't have to add a 3rd to trade Lafferty who can be put in the AHL for nothing.
Rust and Letang aren't for sale.