While a package starting with Dumba for Dvorak may be fair value-wise, it won’t happen and here’s why:

The Coyotes are in the same boat as the Wild are at the center position right now, desperate for NHL quality talent. Dvorak has been the Coyotes best 200 foot center this year. He’s solid defensively, is scoring at a 56 point pace (important for a team who is annually in the bottom 5 of the league for scoring), and is the only center on the coyotes roster who wins face offs on a consistent basis.

Dumba also addresses a need for the coyotes, but a much less glaring one considering we have Soderstrom in the pipeline and he should be getting top-4 min next season. Hayton is on the way for the center position but he hasn’t had the pro success that is expected of him just yet, and the coyotes would be wise to hold onto top 6 quality centers until they’re sure that he will pan out.

Bottom line is that the Coyotes probably ask for JEE in return WITH Dumba in order to make it worth it for them, which from what I can gather from Wild fans on this forum is a non-starter as well. The Wild would be better suited looking at other options for centers IMO.

Wild have to pay kaprrizov, Joel Eriksson Ek, & fiala with 25 mil in cap room. Also, wild have to sign 7 more players considering wild have 10 free agents, & need to put a roster together.

It's also been made clear Guerin isn't taking on any long term contract.

There's no good reason for wild to trade greenway whose one of wild young players with kaprrizov leading wild in points for Filip Forsberg who has been bad dating back to last season, & is a free agent. This is giving wi li d another headache they don't need. Jordan greenway is currently better, & cheaper.

As for bonino, he's been really good lately playing on 3c/ 4c. Why are wild trading a c in bonino for bottom winger?

Wild are better keeping marcus Johnson, victor rask, & Jordan greenway

Uh, what

Are you thinking of Duchene or literally any other Predator besides Forsberg? Because I know you can't be talking about Forsberg.

No disrespect, but even with Him being good, wild wouldn't do Joel Eriksson Ek for him, & add.

Only a top c like barkov is worth that much.

I am just going to put this here below how good Joel Eriksson Ek is

https://theathletic.com/2428496/2021/03/05/how-wilds-joel-eriksson-ek-has-emerged-as-one-of-the-nhls-top-two-way-forwards/

I get what you are saying and I agree moving a center is less then ideal for the Yotes. I was listening to to Craig Morgan,on his "the Natural Hat Trick" podcast, he said that Soderstrom is a year or 2 away yet, not including this one so the absolute earliest I expect to see Soderstrom is midseason next year. He also suggested the Yotes will be looking for RDs. I don't know if you are suggesting that Dvorak is worth Dumba and JEEK, but if you are just stop, but maybe I misunderstood you.
I do agree the Yotes shouldn't be selling their centers yet so that is a bit of a hope and a prayer on my part.

Preds fans say he hasn't been good under the coach who took over last yeat. . I actually just researched him, & he has 10 goals, so why are press fans upset with him?

I am still not impressed with Bonino. I think Forsberg would be better with a better team. The cap issues I've created here I have no argument for, other than, most the pieces I've aquired have value and can be traded away in the off season for hopefully draft picks and prospects.

The whole team looks like crap under new coach and they are from Nashville so hockey doesn't come naturally for most of them. Gotta be selective on which ones you listen to.

I completely understand where you are coming from.

My argument for bonino are since dean figured out he should play on 3rd-4th line c, he's been himself especially defensively on PK. Do you know if wild have any c that could play 4c? Maybe sturm? But , with wild dead set on playoffs, & fixing lockeroom division, really hard for me to see wild trading bonino

Not sure of exact numbers but wild pk is like around 90 percent, or higher?

As for Rask, him having 1 year left I think should be better for wild to keep. Fiala, & kaprrizov are going to take large amounts of cap room if their play continues like this

Can't argue with anything you have said. I've just seen too many offensive opportunitys where Bonino just messes the whole thing up. I really want Dean to give Sturm a bigger opportunity at center so I am happy to move Bonino.

I said that trade won’t happen, because I know that JEE has turned into a great player this year. What I’m saying is that it would be a disservice for the Coyotes to trade their best all around center and not get one in return. So again, deal doesn’t happen because neither the Coyotes or the Wild are willing to part ways with a center

No I am not saying that Dvorak is worth JEE and Dumba. See my above comment for clarification, but essentially the Coyotes won’t move Dvorak unless they’re being massively overpayed for him. And they need a center in return for him which like I said, is why it’s a bad idea for the 2 teams lacking the most in quality centers to make this trade.

I wouldn't touch that NSH trade if I'm MN, it's way too much cap for them to take on.

The only trade I like is the AZ one, but it doesn't make sense for them.

Another thing I just actually thought off, if bono's play continues like this, & Guerin is open to trading bonino, we can maybe get a 2nd with b prospect, or 3rd round pick with b prospect .

Isn't khaira a winger? Trying to remember off memory, & not look it up

Nashville fan here I haven’t seen anyone say that Fil has been bad ever since he came here. He has single handed it carried us on offense for the last few years and this year isn’t a difference.

Arizona Declines no one wants a over paid Dman

It's 83.95% (68/81) according to Hockey Reference.

I’ve heard the yotes have been patient with prospects in the past but what’s the lease on a guy like Hayton? If there was a deal to get done for Dumba it would probably center around Hayton and picks, I’m not sold on Hayton and his draft slot is probably driving the discussion of his potential more than anything which is a tad concerning.

But I totally understand the idea of holding on to Dvorak. He’s a legit top 6 guy that’s on a primo contract.

Khaira, I believe has spent even time between LW and C for the Oilers. I guess I only added him to the trade to give Oilers cap space for the trade and to give the Wild a body with NHL experience.

Here’s the thing: he’s 20 years old. His development thus far hasn’t been fantastic but he was hurt a lot by the NHL-CHL agreement and not being able to play in the AHL last season, being injured after WJC last year, and the pandemic. All that being said he’s still young and I think he’ll still pan out into a good player. But until he starts showing signs of being the player that he was promised to be, the Coyotes shouldn’t be trading their current top 6 guys.

So as an out there idea, would you center a Dumba deal around Hayton? Purely hypothetical at this point.

I wouldn’t, but I could understand if Armstrong wants to trade him now to maximize his value if he doesn’t believe in him. He didn’t draft him and perhaps with the development of Jenik and Faranacci at center he may feel we have the organizational depth to make a big splash deal like that. But once again I think if they’re trading Hayton they need to get a center in return. And it would absolutely kill me and the whole coyotes fan base to see him traded away and for him to turn into the player that he was always promised to be.

Which is obviously my hope if said trade were to happen.