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Is eichel to Carolina a possibility

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    Maybe Buffalo flips Pesce also? Could send him to a team like EDM and get pieces like Bouchard + baxk
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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    Not with that trade, I'm afraid frown
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Not with that trade, I'm afraid frown


    Why not?


    Above average RHD on a great contract, a guy whose looking like a ~60 point 2 way center, two B+ prospects and a first.
    Mar. 10, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
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    Would Fast fit with Gaudreau/Monahan or Tkachuk/Lindholm more?
    Mar. 10, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
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    I would stay away from this deal from a Carolina standpoint
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
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    Why not?


    Above average RHD on a great contract, a guy whose looking like a ~60 point 2 way center, two B+ prospects and a first.


    First off, that first-round pick is going to be really late in the first round.

    Second, Buffalo wants Grade A prospects.

    Third, the Hurricanes are getting Colin Miller for cheap

    There's not enough value going back to Buffalo. I'm sorry.
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    First off, that first-round pick is going to be really late in the first round.

    Second, Buffalo wants Grade A prospects.

    Third, the Hurricanes are getting Colin Miller for cheap

    There's not enough value going back to Buffalo. I'm sorry.


    This is the problem Buffalo is going to run into trying to trade Eichel. Good teams don't have high draft picks (Because they're good). This means their prospect pool is also significantly weaker. So this puts Buffalo in a tough spot. Do they want multiple 1sts and some prospects, or do they want a big roster player and a late 1st with some B/C prospects? So a team that is way out of the playoff picture will have those high draft picks available, right? Why would they move all those futures if the team stinks? The Kings and Rangers defense is bad, and both of those teams have over-performed a bit, why would LA trade Turcotte/Byfield for another forward? Why would NYR move Kakko/Chytil/Kravtsov for another forward? Both teams clearly need defensemen. It's a very difficult situation for Buffalo, I think they're going to have to settle at some point. This trade is probably the best offer for Eichel I've seen on here.
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 11:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    This is the problem Buffalo is going to run into trying to trade Eichel. Good teams don't have high draft picks (Because they're good). This means their prospect pool is also significantly weaker. So this puts Buffalo in a tough spot. Do they want multiple 1sts and some prospects, or do they want a big roster player and a late 1st with some B/C prospects? So a team that is way out of the playoff picture will have those high draft picks available, right? Why would they move all those futures if the team stinks? The Kings and Rangers defense is bad, and both of those teams have over-performed a bit, why would LA trade Turcotte/Byfield for another forward? Why would NYR move Kakko/Chytil/Kravtsov for another forward? Both teams clearly need defensemen. It's a very difficult situation for Buffalo, I think they're going to have to settle at some point. This trade is probably the best offer for Eichel I've seen on here.


    Another sticking point is going to be his cap hit at 10 million.

    I made a post a while ago on what Ottawa would pay for Eichel. It's titled "How a superstar is seen by another team's fanbase".

    I offered Colin White, Nick Paul, Brannstrom, Thomson and Logan Brown along with Ottawa's first for this year.

    One person from the Tampa Bay Lightning said that's what he would pay.

    My offer far outstrips this one and some still don't think it's enough.

    Buffalo is in a bind.
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 11:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Another sticking point is going to be his cap hit at 10 million.

    I made a post a while ago on what Ottawa would pay for Eichel. It's titled "How a superstar is seen by another team's fanbase".

    I offered Colin White, Nick Paul, Brannstrom, Thomson and Logan Brown along with Ottawa's first for this year.

    One person from the Tampa Bay Lightning said that's what he would pay.

    My offer far outstrips this one and some still don't think it's enough.

    Buffalo is in a bind.


    That's a great offer, but like I mentioned... OTT is nowhere near the playoffs. Their best option in net (Gustavsson) is 2-3 years away, they're probably missing 3 NHL caliber defensemen because Brannstrom isn't there yet. They're not close to the right stage to even consider trading futures.
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    Mar. 10, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.
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    think svechnikov and necas.
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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    I think CAR certainly has the assets to do it but this trade wouldn't work. If BUF is moving Eichel that means they are blowing it up so it would be pick and prospect based. So probably:

    Jarvis+Suzuki+Bean+1s+1st.
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 12:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    Why not?


    Above average RHD on a great contract, a guy whose looking like a ~60 point 2 way center, two B+ prospects and a first.


    Above average RHD on a great contract = Things Buffalo really doesnt need. Necas, Jarvis, Suzuki, and Bokk would be interesting to them though
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 12:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    This is the problem Buffalo is going to run into trying to trade Eichel. Good teams don't have high draft picks (Because they're good). This means their prospect pool is also significantly weaker. So this puts Buffalo in a tough spot. Do they want multiple 1sts and some prospects, or do they want a big roster player and a late 1st with some B/C prospects? So a team that is way out of the playoff picture will have those high draft picks available, right? Why would they move all those futures if the team stinks? The Kings and Rangers defense is bad, and both of those teams have over-performed a bit, why would LA trade Turcotte/Byfield for another forward? Why would NYR move Kakko/Chytil/Kravtsov for another forward? Both teams clearly need defensemen. It's a very difficult situation for Buffalo, I think they're going to have to settle at some point. This trade is probably the best offer for Eichel I've seen on here.


    They dont have to settle at all. They'll just keep Eichel
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 1:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Above average RHD on a great contract = Things Buffalo really doesnt need. Necas, Jarvis, Suzuki, and Bokk would be interesting to them though


    Rees is much better than Bokk but year i see your point. i did post an extra trade though where i speculated that they could flip pesce
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 1:11 a.m.
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    Rees is much better than Bokk but year i see your point. i did post an extra trade though where i speculated that they could flip pesce


    that makes no sense to include a piece that Buffalo has to flip
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 1:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    This is the problem Buffalo is going to run into trying to trade Eichel. Good teams don't have high draft picks (Because they're good). This means their prospect pool is also significantly weaker. So this puts Buffalo in a tough spot. Do they want multiple 1sts and some prospects, or do they want a big roster player and a late 1st with some B/C prospects? So a team that is way out of the playoff picture will have those high draft picks available, right? Why would they move all those futures if the team stinks? The Kings and Rangers defense is bad, and both of those teams have over-performed a bit, why would LA trade Turcotte/Byfield for another forward? Why would NYR move Kakko/Chytil/Kravtsov for another forward? Both teams clearly need defensemen. It's a very difficult situation for Buffalo, I think they're going to have to settle at some point. This trade is probably the best offer for Eichel I've seen on here.


    I was trying to say this exact thing in another ACGM. Long story short, Buffalo will have to settle for multiple firsts and a second/third hope to draft well and develop even better.

    But as people have seen, Buffalo sucks at drafting and more importantly, developing talent.
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 2:42 a.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    that makes no sense to include a piece that Buffalo has to flip


    Makes perfect sense. You aren't going to get the futures you expect from an eichel trade. If pesce could bring you another great prospect, a first and a good prospect then you might as well do that
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 5:59 a.m.
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    Not great, but not terrible either
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 7:35 a.m.
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    Not great, but not terrible either


    3.6?
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:10 a.m.
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    We don't want Eichel. We don't need Eichel (Aho, Troch, Staal). I don't see us trading Pesce or Necas in the foreseeable future.
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    Makes perfect sense. You aren't going to get the futures you expect from an eichel trade. If pesce could bring you another great prospect, a first and a good prospect then you might as well do that


    You put the onus on Buffalo to get the full value of Eichel instead of giving Buffalo the full value of Eichel, it makes no sense, its never made sense. The only time it would make sense is for a fringe playoff team months before the deadline so they can see if they can turn the ship around and if not they can jettison pieces
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:47 a.m.
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    think svechnikov and necas.


    Lol
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dzinger18
    We don't want Eichel. We don't need Eichel (Aho, Troch, Staal). I don't see us trading Pesce or Necas in the foreseeable future.


    If you dont need Eichel, you dont need Necas and Buffalo doesnt want Pesce. I do see a trade there, just not this. Eichel - Aho is infinitely better than Aho - Troch
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 9:01 a.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    If you dont need Eichel, you dont need Necas and Buffalo doesnt want Pesce. I do see a trade there, just not this. Eichel - Aho is infinitely better than Aho - Troch


    1. We do need Necas.
    2. Getting Eichel would put him on the 2nd Line, Troch on the 3rd Line, and Staal on the 4th Line. It would be unfair to Troch and Staal.
    Mar. 11, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dzinger18
    1. We do need Necas.
    2. Getting Eichel would put him on the 2nd Line, Troch on the 3rd Line, and Staal on the 4th Line. It would be unfair to Troch and Staal.


    If you need Necas - Eichel > Necas.
    Eichel would be first line C and even if you want to argue that, that means you have 2 ridiculously talented centers - Trocheck goes to wing
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    Mar. 11, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    If you need Necas - Eichel > Necas.
    Eichel would be first line C and even if you want to argue that, that means you have 2 ridiculously talented centers - Trocheck goes to wing


    canes fans are laughing at me, but a trade including svechnikov + necas seems extremely fair to me.
     
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