Can't see Guerin being interested in that, at all. Addison was seemingly his target in the Sucker trade, and he's progressed even better than expected since then. He's also been on record as saying he's got a long term plan, and he's not going to mortgage it unless it really makes sense. And with Kuznetsov's...antics...I don't see how he wouldn't be on Guerin's blacklist.

IMO Ovi should have already made enough money. I think at this point in his career he should take a reasonable contract and focus on trying to win more cups instead.

if Guerin had an opportunity to get a player like Kuzy and didnt bc he was caught dong "coke" i doubt he would be an NHL gm. Kuzy isnt the first player to do it and wont be the last, Addison is good but the Wild have a mix group (age) and most of their better players are in their win now window. ( Spur Brodin ZP Dumba ....ect.... even KK isnt that young) . i doubt he would pass on massively upgrading his center depth over a prospect and pick. thats imo of course.

from what im to understand management thinks "ovechkin ,while in a capitals jersey, chasing/breaking the WG goal record is as/more important than this team winning a cup" i think as a leader he should take a discount but not my pig not my farm

Or the Wild keep their pick and prospect and just sign Danault themselves. That's the better option with Rossi in their prospect pool and Ek getting to show some more offense.

Yeah he told 22 year old Greenway to buckle down or pack his ****, so I really doubt he has the time to babysit a 29 year old that's more concerned with partying and having fun than leading a team to a championship. Guerin is big on character and I can all but guarantee that getting caught doing cocaine is exactly what would get a player on his bad side.

And like I said, he is on record as saying he won't mortgage the future unless the deal really makes sense. This one doesn't.

Honest question: does this really make the Capitals any better? From what I'm looking at, I think this team is marginally worse, if not considerably worse.

I am firmly against trading Kuznetsov unless it's a considerable package, but your point about him being more concerned about partying than getting a ring is certifiably false, considering the dude led the playoffs in scoring in 2018 when the Caps won the cup. His issue is "flipping the switch" from being solid to being an elite offensive player.

If his issue is effort and consistency then there's nothing else to say. He's 100% not someone Guerin will have interest in.

I think 6 million for 3 years would be more than fair but that’s just me.

I mean, I'm fine with that lol. I don't want to trade him. Through the early parts of the Ovechkin-era, the Capitals never had a solid 1-2 punch at center. Kuznetsov - Backstrom is one of the better 1-2 centers in the league, and I think it would have to be a haul for MacLellan to consider moving him.

As much as I would love that, I doubt Ovi takes that. If that was something he'd want to do, the Caps would have signed that extension yesterday.

PD doesn't add the type of offense that Kuzy does and they already have a really solid 2 way center in EK..... who is t he center that is able to score 70-80 points?? Rossi is still probably 2-3 years away from being a solid NHL player. Capitals have Backstrom so they need a more shutdown guy thats why PD makes sense but Wild dont have a guy thats able to be a true #1c

I can't see Seattle doing that. He's just too old, and the contract is too long for too much. He's gonna be 35 next year. It would be straight negligence for their GM to take that.

The Kuzy trade, I don't think the coke is the issue, it's the 7.8 mil for a guy who doesn't play like he's worth 7.8 million. I could see it happening if MIN isn't trying to rebuild and you drop the 1st and replace it with a 2nd.
But I'm not sure MIN is in position to take on 7.8 mil in cap. That's 1/3 of their cap space next season and they'd only have 7 forwards and 5 Dmen. With larger contracts like Kaprizov, Fiala and EK to sign.
I don't think they will be in a position to bring in almost 8 mil in cap.

Sure, but then, you weren't the one that told me Guerin would easily make the deal above, so even though we exchanged a couple messages, my point wasn't really directed at you.

"babysit a 29 year old that's more concerned with partying and having fun than leading a team to a championship" who carried the Capitals to a cup? interesting take lol

yeah the team is much worse but what option do you have when Ovechkin wants a massive payday at 37

I mean you could easily make the argument that if he was more concerned with winning, "flipping the switch" wouldn't be his biggest issue.

Kuzy at 50% is better than every center on your roster at 100%.... just saying

Great, that means nothing

What if the wild gave up Menell instead of Addison? Does deal still get done? I’d say Menell is more NHL ready than Addison ATM.

Kuzy doesnt play like a 7.8m center?i disagree but either way hes a massive upgrade their center depth and i dont think they are rebuilding... their d core is in a w in now window and they are missing center depth atm

Kuznetsov does have more offense, but he's $2m more expensive and the Wild need to sign Fiala, Kaprizov, and Ek this offseason. If anything, they'll look to move Dumba after the expansion draft to free up cap space and they'll then need Addison to fill his roster spot. With a flat cap again, doubt they'll add a guy like Kuznetsov when they can probably sign a UFA like Danault or Stastny while keeping their cost controlled players. UFAs aren't going to get the money they would have a few years ago.

i dont know a lot about him i would have to look more into him

It's actually pretty funny, there seems to be a disconnect here.

For as good as you're painting Kuznetsov, for as much as you're trying to convince me he would help the Wild win a Cup, you're trying very hard to make this deal work where you guys get the same return for Kuznetsov as the Wild got for *Jason Zucker*.

It's just not adding up.

And I can assure you, with what that other Capitals fan said, it doesn't matter how good he is, Guerin won't be interested.