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Outside the box off-season

Created by: brady_t12
Initial Creation Date: Mar 14, 2021
Published: Mar 14 at 12:50
Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Samsonov, Ilya2$3,000,000
Siegenthaler, Jonas2$1,000,000
Vrána, Jakub5$5,000,000
Dubé, Dillon3$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Ovechkin, Alex4$10,000,000
Sgarbossa, Michael2$925,000
Sheary, Conor2$1,500,000
Trades
WSH
    Expansion
    VGK
    1. Orlov, Dmitry
    2. 2021 4th round pick (WSH)
    Additional Details:
    Adding fourth round pick to guarantee Seattle takes Orlov. Orlov has value but so do the goalies and Oshie
    WSH
    1. Hanifin, Noah
    2. Dubé, Dillon [RFA Rights]
    CGY
    1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny
    2. Siegenthaler, Jonas
    WSH
    1. 2021 6th round pick (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Pánik, Richard
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    VGK
    WSH
    ARI
    2022
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    2023
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    WSH
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$81,269,167$0$132,500$230,833
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    WSH
    Ovechkin, Alex
    $10,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    WSH
    Bäckström, Nicklas
    $9,200,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    WSH
    Wilson, Tom
    $5,166,666
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Vrána, Jakub
    $5,000,000
    LW
    RFA
    WSH
    Eller, Lars
    $3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Oshie, T.J.
    $5,750,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    WSH
    Sheary, Conor
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    McMichael, Connor
    $894,167
    C
    RFA - 2
    Dubé, Dillon
    $3,250,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    WSH
    Hagelin, Carl
    $2,750,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    WSH
    Dowd, Nic
    $750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Hathaway, Garnet
    $1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    WSH
    Dillon, Brenden
    $3,900,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Carlson, John
    $8,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    WSH
    Samsonov, Ilya
    $3,000,000
    G
    RFA
    CGY
    Hanifin, Noah
    $4,950,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    WSH
    Schultz, Justin
    $4,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Vanecek, Vitek
    $716,667
    G
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    Kempný, Michal
    $2,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    WSH
    Jensen, Nick
    $2,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    WSH
    Sprong, Daniel
    $725,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    WSH
    Fehérváry, Martin
    $791,667
    LD
    RFA - 2
    WSH
    Sgarbossa, Michael
    $925,000
    C
    UFA

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    Mar 14 at 12:53
    #1
    KFTW
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    No way Calgary does this
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    Mar 14 at 1:00
    #2
    Joined: Sep 2020
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    No thanks
    Mar 14 at 1:01
    #3
    Caps fan idk why
    Joined: Dec 2016
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    Quoting: csick
    No way Calgary does this


    Is Hanifin good now? Doubt Washington would touch this...
    Mar 14 at 1:02
    #4
    Caps fan idk why
    Joined: Dec 2016
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    This makes the team worse. Just let Seattle pick Jensen. Orlov is better that Hanifin and Eller can’t be a 2c.... Mcmichael isn’t nhl ready for another year imo
    Mar 14 at 1:04
    #5
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    Is Hanifin good now? Doubt Washington would touch this...


    Yes he has he has been one of our best dmen
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    Mar 14 at 1:07
    #6
    Ninja Dust
    Joined: Feb 2018
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    I'm puzzled by moving orlov, hes like the perfect second pair guy.
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    Mar 14 at 1:09
    #7
    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Yes he has he has been one of our best dmen


    Interesting... Maybe his good year is bc of the shat north division bc he wasn’t good last year or the year before that. Still wouldn’t trade a 1b center for an above average D man...
    Mar 14 at 1:10
    #8
    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: Jfstompers
    I'm puzzled by moving orlov, hes like the perfect second pair guy.


    I agree. Why give up Orlov then give up your 2c for a downgraded D man. Why not keep Orlov and Kuzy and this team is way better 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Mar 14 at 1:13
    #9
    Joined: Jun 2019
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    Interesting... Maybe his good year is bc of the shat north division bc he wasn’t good last year or the year before that. Still wouldn’t trade a 1b center for an above average D man...


    Or because he only just turned 24 and isn't being anchored down by Hamonic anymore
    Mar 14 at 1:39
    #10
    Joined: Apr 2019
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    Is Hanifin good now? Doubt Washington would touch this...


    Hanifin is very good this year. I saw your comment above... he just progressed and has a good partner now. I like Kuzy but he’s having a god awful year, what’s up with that?
    Mar 14 at 11:41
    #11
    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: TheFlamingC
    Hanifin is very good this year. I saw your comment above... he just progressed and has a good partner now. I like Kuzy but he’s having a god awful year, what’s up with that?


    God awful year? This is why this site is a clown show. People complain that he’s an incomplete player and he sucks at defense. THEN he works on his defensive game and all those numbers are way higher than last year and now he’s having a godawful year lol. Hanifin is having a “god awful” yeah as well if you only look at the box score lol. 5 points I believe Jensen is has more offensive production. Either way caps would never trade Kuzy for Hanifin kid is average at best.
    Mar 14 at 12:39
    #12
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    This makes the team worse. Just let Seattle pick Jensen. Orlov is better that Hanifin and Eller can’t be a 2c.... Mcmichael isn’t nhl ready for another year imo


    Seattle isn’t picking Jensen. They’re picking Orlov, Oshie, or Vanecek depending on who’s protected. If you just protect our top guys at every position:

    Ovechkin
    Backstrom
    Wilson
    Kuznetsov
    Vrana
    Oshie
    Eller

    Carlson
    Orlov
    Jensen

    Samsonov

    Vanecek is the easy pick unless they really want Schultz which wouldn’t be the end of the world.
    Mar 14 at 8:36
    #13
    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    Seattle isn’t picking Jensen. They’re picking Orlov, Oshie, or Vanecek depending on who’s protected. If you just protect our top guys at every position:

    Ovechkin
    Backstrom
    Wilson
    Kuznetsov
    Vrana
    Oshie
    Eller

    Carlson
    Orlov
    Jensen

    Samsonov

    Vanecek is the easy pick unless they really want Schultz which wouldn’t be the end of the world.


    Ovechkin is a UFA non red to protect him. Expose Copley not V V and that’s easily avoided
    Mar 15 at 2:11
    #14
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    Ovechkin is a UFA non red to protect him. Expose Copley not V V and that’s easily avoided


    It’s not a question of choosing to expose one goalie. You can only protect one goalie. It’s not easily avoided at all. You can’t avoid exposing Vanecek if you wanna keep Samsonov
    Mar 15 at 11:22
    #15
    Caps fan idk why
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    It’s not a question of choosing to expose one goalie. You can only protect one goalie. It’s not easily avoided at all. You can’t avoid exposing Vanecek if you wanna keep Samsonov


    no you need to have 2 goalie to pick from... and you protect 1 of the 2...thats my understanding of the rules. Also what universe do the Capitals protect Jensen over Dillon
    Mar 15 at 4:39
    #16
    Blues GM v4
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    We need to keep our top four intact. Dillon, Carlson, Orlov and Schultz have all been excellent players for us. As good as Jensen has been lately, he's the guy that would makes the most sense to let Seattle have. He's easily replaceable (hopefully we resign TVR for that) and provides some cap relief.
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    Mar 15 at 6:16
    #17
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    Quoting: Capitalfail67
    no you need to have 2 goalie to pick from... and you protect 1 of the 2...thats my understanding of the rules. Also what universe do the Capitals protect Jensen over Dillon


    I’m not trying to be a dick here, but you’re just interpreting the rules wrong. The caps can only protect one goalie. You can’t choose to only expose one. Copley and Vanecek will both be eligible for selection in the expansion draft.

    You protect Jensen over Dillon because Jensen is cheaper, faster, younger, and more versatile than Dillon. Dillon is an average shutdown defenseman, and he’s really great at playing his role, but the fact of the matter is the caps have a logjam at the LD position and we need RD, which Jensen is one. It’s a no brainer to protect Jensen over Dillon and if we lose Jensen in expansion, he’s going to flourish in a top 4 role in Seattle. We’re already seeing him grow with the caps. He’s the smoothest skater on the team and he’s fantastic at both ends of the ice.
    Mar 15 at 6:18
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    Quoting: krakowitz
    We need to keep our top four intact. Dillon, Carlson, Orlov and Schultz have all been excellent players for us. As good as Jensen has been lately, he's the guy that would makes the most sense to let Seattle have. He's easily replaceable (hopefully we resign TVR for that) and provides some cap relief.


    I was super sour on Jensen before the playoffs, but he’s been amazing since then. Due to his contract and his development, it would be a mistake to let him go. Out of the top 4, Dillon is the most easily replaceable and I think Schultz won’t be a huge loss if he goes since we just picked him up in free agency.

    Honestly the whole point of this post was just to do something different and generate some discussion but apparently people don’t like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Mar 15 at 6:38
    #19
    Blues GM v4
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    I was super sour on Jensen before the playoffs, but he’s been amazing since then. Due to his contract and his development, it would be a mistake to let him go. Out of the top 4, Dillon is the most easily replaceable and I think Schultz won’t be a huge loss if he goes since we just picked him up in free agency.

    Honestly the whole point of this post was just to do something different and generate some discussion but apparently people don’t like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    There's nothing wrong with a new idea, it's just that it's not an idea that I personally think is wise, so we had a discussion about it. I personally think that in our cap crunch, spending $2.5M on a third pairing defenseman could be better used elsewhere, especially given our defensive depth and strength of our top four.
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