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Los Angeles Kings signed Matt Roy (3 Years / $3,150,000 AAV)

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Mar. 22, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.
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It was 100% your point, you're trying to deflect because you made a stupid comparison and I called you on it. Even before this year Barrie was a premier offensive defenseman in the NHL.

From 2017-18 to 2019-20 (3 seasons) at 5v5:

1. Carlson: 100
2. Josi: 99
3. Burns: 95
4. Karlsson: 83
5. Rielly: 83
6. Barrie: 78
7. Hedman: 77
8. Nurse: 77

Even last year in Toronto he was a top point producer at 5v5, finishing tied for 12th in the league with Pietrangelo, Karlsson and Chabot.


Except my point was that I think Roy is better than Doughty, because he's overrated. I used Barrie as an example, but maybe it was a poor one.

If you attempted to play the Sherlock Holmes of bad comparisons in CF, congrats. Your task was successful indeed.
Mar. 22, 2021 at 9:31 a.m.
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LOL, that's not even close to the truth. Barrie is one of the best offensive defenseman at 5v5 too.


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Mar. 22, 2021 at 9:47 a.m.
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Where did I say anything about re-signing Barrie?
Mar. 22, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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Where did I say anything about re-signing Barrie?


You mean you don't want one of the best offensive defenseman at 5v5 on your team for multiple years?
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Mar. 22, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.
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You mean you don't want one of the best offensive defenseman at 5v5 on your team for multiple years?

They already have one of the best offensive defenseman at 5v5 on their team. Here's the stats for the past 3.5 years:

1. Carlson: 116
2. Burns: 104
3. Josi: 103
4. Nurse: 95
5. Rielly: 94
6. Barrie: 93
7. Chabot: 90
8. Hedman: 86
9. Karlsson: 87
10. Giordano: 85
11. Pietrangelo: 82
12. Hamilton: 81
13. Ekblad: 81

Barrie is 30 this summer. That's not a great age to sign a guy for big term and big dollars. Besides, I'm pretty sure 21-year-old Evan Bouchard (1.52 P/60 at 5v5) can fill in for Barrie (1.53 P/60 at 5v5) going forward.
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Mar. 22, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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They already have one of the best offensive defenseman at 5v5 on their team. Here's the stats for the past 3.5 years:

1. Carlson: 116
2. Burns: 104
3. Josi: 103
4. Nurse: 95
5. Rielly: 94
6. Barrie: 93
7. Chabot: 90
8. Hedman: 86
9. Karlsson: 87
10. Giordano: 85
11. Pietrangelo: 82
12. Hamilton: 81
13. Ekblad: 81

Barrie is 30 this summer. That's not a great age to sign a guy for big term and big dollars. Besides, I'm pretty sure 21-year-old Evan Bouchard (1.52 P/60 at 5v5) can fill in for Barrie (1.53 P/60 at 5v5) going forward.


Now you can have two!
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Mar. 22, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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Now you can have two!

Yup. Darnell Nurse and Evan Bouchard.
Mar. 22, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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Yup. Darnell Nurse and Evan Bouchard.


Bouchard is going to be traded to make room for Tyson Barrie and the 8 x 8 he will be signing.
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Mar. 22, 2021 at 11:42 a.m.
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Now you can have two!


Lol what would we do without you, mondo
Mar. 22, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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Bouchard is going to be traded to make room for Tyson Barrie and the 8 x 8 he will be signing.


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Mar. 22, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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Bouchard is going to be traded to make room for Tyson Barrie and the 8 x 8 he will be signing.


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Mar. 22, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
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Why protect Iafallo? He's a pending UFA and probable trade target.

I personally wouldn't protect pending UFAs. Seattle's unlikely to take such assets, as they have zero leverage over them.


That's not how UFAs work with the expansion draft. The week prior to the draft, Seattle is allowed to negotiate new contracts with all pending UFAs and RFAs that are unprotected. If they come to terms with any of them, that player becomes the selection from their former team. If they don't come to terms, then Seattle is free to choose someone else. They don't have to select the player and cross their fingers that they can negotiate a new deal in the few days before free agent frenzy begins.

Regardless, I think that Iafallo will be extended in LA prior to the trade deadline. The Kings like him, and he likes LA. They don't have any other NHL ready options in the pipeline to replace him at 1LW if he leaves.
Mar. 22, 2021 at 5:05 p.m.
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That's not how UFAs work with the expansion draft. The week prior to the draft, Seattle is allowed to negotiate new contracts with all pending UFAs and RFAs that are unprotected. If they come to terms with any of them, that player becomes the selection from their former team. If they don't come to terms, then Seattle is free to choose someone else. They don't have to select the player and cross their fingers that they can negotiate a new deal in the few days before free agent frenzy begins.

Regardless, I think that Iafallo will be extended in LA prior to the trade deadline. The Kings like him, and he likes LA. They don't have any other NHL ready options in the pipeline to replace him at 1LW if he leaves.


Can you tell me where did you get this info, because I've never heard anything of the sort.

Doesn't make sense to think that for instance VGK had the same option to negotiate with UFAs prior to ExD, yet they only picked four pending UFAs in that said draft, namely Engelland, Brickley, Berube and Thorburn, with the two latter of them being assets VGK got paid big time to take.
Mar. 22, 2021 at 5:14 p.m.
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Can you tell me where did you get this info, because I've never heard anything of the sort.

Doesn't make sense to think that for instance VGK had the same option to negotiate with UFAs prior to ExD, yet they only picked four pending UFAs in that said draft, namely Engelland, Brickley, Berube and Thorburn, with the two latter of them being assets VGK got paid big time to take.

It was discussed in the weeks prior to the Vegas expansion draft, referred to as "Exclusive Free Agency."

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Let's start with free agents, because even if a team can sign or qualify them, that doesn't mean they have the room to protect them. Plus, if a team doesn't sign them, Las Vegas will have an exclusive 72-hour period (starting June 18, 10 a.m.) to negotiate with and sign any pending free agents (unrestricted or restricted) left unprotected by their teams before submitting their expansion draft selections by 10 a.m. June 21. If Vegas signs a free agent in that window, that signing counts as their selection from the player's previous team.

NHL Expansion Draft 101

Here's another link that explains it further.

Expansion Draft Primer: What's Exclusive Free Agency?
Mar. 22, 2021 at 5:44 p.m.
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It was discussed in the weeks prior to the Vegas expansion draft, referred to as "Exclusive Free Agency."


Ah, I see.

Well regardless I wouldn't be too worried about losing Iafallo to SEA. If, as you put it, he likes the team and the team likes him, he's unlikely to sign a contract with them and thus become their ExD pick.
Mar. 22, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
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Ah, I see.

Well regardless I wouldn't be too worried about losing Iafallo to SEA. If, as you put it, he likes the team and the team likes him, he's unlikely to sign a contract with them and thus become their ExD pick.


Probably true. Seattle is one of those teams that would be able to significantly overpay for him if they wanted to.

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Apr. 14, 2021 at 1:45 a.m.
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