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Realistic TDL

Created by: yanleg96
Initial Creation Date: Mar 22, 2021
Published: Mar 22 at 9:15
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Ekholm, Mattias
NSH
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Mete, Victor
  3. Brook, Josh
  4. Hillis, Cameron
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Armia is a cap dump and ufa at the end of the year
MTL
  1. Glendening, Luke ($900,000 retained)
DET
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (PHI)
3rd is for glenndenning and 5th is a compensation for the retained salary (you have plenty of cap space)
MTL
  1. 2021 7th round pick (TOR)
BOS
  1. Weal, Jordan
Additional Details:
anywhere to a playoffs contender
MTL
  1. Sörensen, Marcus ($750,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Ikonen, Joni [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Paul, Nicholas
OTT
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Vejdemo, Lukas
  3. Lindgren, Charlie
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
good prospect + 2nd to take byron slary and he could easily replace paul in your lineup. You get Lindgren as you have injured goalers right now.
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $3,958,333
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
CHI
WSH
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
MTL
MTL
TOR
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,231,309$0$3,137,500$268,691
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW
UFA - 7
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
OTT
Paul, Nicholas
$1,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
DET
Glendening, Luke
$900,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Perry, Corey
$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
$3,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
MTL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Evans, Jake
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
SJS
Sörensen, Marcus
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
MTL
Frolík, Michael
$750,000 ($0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Olofsson, Gustav
$750,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Ouellet, Xavier
$737,500 ($0)
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Dauphin, Laurent
$700,000 ($0)
C, LW
UFA - 1

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Mar 22 at 9:22
#1
Go Wings Go
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Like i've stated on numerous threads like this one, the odds of Yzerman retaining on Glendening are fairly slim, Yzerman will want to retain on Bernier, Helm, Nemeth, Filppula or Staal not on a miniscule $1.8 million for Luke Glendening.
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Mar 22 at 9:22
#2
Dumb trades are easy
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As always, specified realistic trades are unrealistic.
Mar 22 at 9:25
#3
Go Sharks Go
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Sharks accept
Mar 22 at 9:42
#4
Buffbry
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Same story different day wings aren't retaining on LGD
Mar 22 at 10:13
#5
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Edited Mar 22 at 10:19
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Like i've stated on numerous threads like this one, the odds of Yzerman retaining on Glendening are fairly slim, Yzerman will want to retain on Bernier, Helm, Nemeth, Filppula or Staal not on a miniscule $1.8 million for Luke Glendening.


Quoting: buffbry
Same story different day wings aren't retaining on LGD


And that is why you guys are not GM's, any GM will retain on any player as long as they are compensated for it (unless they are MB who not only gives away players but retains on them as well, Kovalchuck) Kovalchuck was only at 750k and Montreal retained half of that (they should have gotten an additional pick but that is on MB). If the only player who is garnering any interest is Glendening or if they only trade two of them and one is Glendenning Yzerman would retain on him to maximize the return. To say Yzerman won't retain on a Glendenning trade is not correct, perhaps more of a "Yzerman will not retain on Glendenning unless it benefits the Wings" would be more appropriate.

Also, No one wants Filppula or Helm and very few others will want Nemeth, so the Wings won't have to worry about retaining on them. Luckily for the Wings though they are all UFA's at the end of the season so they won't hurt the cap situation going forward (unless the Wings can't hit the cap floor, but I doubt that would be a problem, they aren't after all Ottawa).
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Mar 22 at 10:20
#6
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Campabee
And that is why you guys are not GM's, any GM will retain on any player as long as they are compensated for it (unless they are MB who not only gives away players but retains on them as well, Kovalchuck) Kovalchuck was only at 750k and Montreal retained half of that (they should have gotten an additional pick but that is on MB). If the only player who is garnering any interest is Glendening or if they only trade two of them and one is Glendenning Yzerman would retain on him to maximize the return. To say Yzerman won't retain on a Glendenning trade is not correct, perhaps more of a "Yzerman will not retain on Glendenning unless it benefits the Wings" would be more appropriate.


Sure Luke Glendening @ $900,000 50% retention for either a 2021/2022 2nd round pick perhaps, But you and i know full well that he isn't going to get that kind of return.
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Mar 22 at 10:28
#7
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Sure Luke Glendening $900,000 50% retention for either a 2021/2022 2nd round pick perhaps, But you and i know full well that he isn't going to get that kind of return.


So your saying Yzerman wouldn't take a 3rd + a prospect like Hillis or Gordon? Or how about a 3rd + 5th (Ott) which is basically a 4th? It would be bad asset management to turn down any deal involving Glendenning with retention just because you don't want to retain 900k. BTW I don't think anyone would ask for retention, I am just making a point that Yzerman would retain IF asked to for additional assets.
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Mar 22 at 10:37
#8
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Sure Luke Glendening $900,000 50% retention for either a 2021/2022 2nd round pick perhaps, But you and i know full well that he isn't going to get that kind of return.


Difficult to say where the market will be at. Tampa paid 1st round picks for Coleman and Goodrow last year. Not a comparison for what Glendening should be worth, but does show teams' willingness to overpay for players they believe will help them win the Cup. Sure seems like a lot of teams are interested in Luke, Wings could use salary retention as leverage, especially if they don't intend to trade more than three players.

With Bernier injury, Staal might not be in demand, Ryan is cheap already, it doesn't seem out of the question that Wings would be ready and willing to retain for a higher pick.
Mar 22 at 10:55
#9
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Quoting: Campabee
So your saying Yzerman wouldn't take a 3rd + a prospect like Hillis or Gordon? Or how about a 3rd + 5th (Ott) which is basically a 4th? It would be bad asset management to turn down any deal involving Glendenning with retention just because you don't want to retain 900k. BTW I don't think anyone would ask for retention, I am just making a point that Yzerman would retain IF asked to for additional assets.


To be honest, it's mostly just tiring that people just throw in salary retention with most Red Wings trades. Whether accurate or not I'm not sure, but Red Wings have a chance to move 3-5 players at the deadline. The incorrect assumption is that the Red Wings are not strict with their cap management. They are making all of the "paper moves" that everyone else is with the taxi squad. They are going to be very deliberate with how they manage their cap space with the revenue losses that the league has faced. Personally, I think I agree with the idea that Glendening is the last player the Red Wings would want to be retaining any salary on. If they can move Staal, Ryan, Gagner, Bernier with Salary Retention for exactly the situation you described there is still a market for Glendenning with his current salary.
Mar 22 at 11:01
#10
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Nick Paul would probably cost a 2nd round pick by himself. Probably a 1st if he's going to Montreal because they'd have to overpay. However I do think Ottawa would pick up Byron's contract for the next two years for a 2nd. He definitely wouldn't do what Paul does but I think a 2nd is fair compensation for eating that money.
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Mar 22 at 12:10
#11
AHHHH OUAIS
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i think i would pass as the sens, i think a second for nick paul is somewhat fair although i think personally i would rather just see the sens retain salary and get him to league minimum instead of taking back byron. I think if they move paul they would want to send him out to get some of out prospects like abramov or formenton in the lineup, byron can replace him but i think the sens would rather just go younger from within
Mar 22 at 12:41
#12
This site sucks
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Hell yeah SJ accepts.
 
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