Matthews is right there with MacKinnon, it can't be denied. Leads the league in goals while being a two way beast and has had a bad wrist for most of the year.
Matthews is right there with MacKinnon, it can't be denied. Leads the league in goals while being a two way beast and has had a bad wrist for most of the year.
He’s number 5 that’s still rly good
Edit: he’s at 7 nvm. 4-7 are pretty interchangeable tho
Panarin is better than Crosby and Draisital, he has the 2nd most PPG this year, and the most even strength points of any player since 2019, beating out Connor McDavid with 10 more EV points in 4 less games
Panarin is better than Crosby and Draisital, he has the 2nd most PPG this year, and the most even strength points of any player since 2019, beating out Connor McDavid with 10 more EV points in 4 less games
You can argue Crosby but he’s not better than Draisaitl
He's better than Draisaitl and has proven that without a doubt this season in their head to heads. Some will argue Hedman is better but I think Matthews has proven he's right there with MacKinnon. He's been better defensively and as good offensively in a tougher division. Matthews will always be held just a little lower than he should because of the anti leaf bias that exists on here. Not saying you specifically but it's prevalent and does seem to lower Matthews perceived skill. The guy is running away with the Rocket and has been hurt for much of the season. Draisaitl has a pile of points but 75% have come with McDavid on the ice and yet Draisaitl is still supposed to be top 4? Draisaitl isn't top 10. He's a very good player no doubt but he's a star player playing with the best player in the world. Imagine how many goals Matthews would score if he had McDavid playing on his line? 50 in 50 would almost be a lock.
I think Matthews will be one of the most underrated players for years to come. Why? Because he doesn't ever even get any recognition for his defensive ability. Stone is considered the best defensive winger in the world because he gets takeaways all the time. Matthews is better than him at that and plays a more important position. So how does Matthews who's defensive metrics are better than almost every other elite centre never get recognized? I think it's a combination of reputation, and just how the mob thinks. He scores a lot so he's not good defensively. That is flat out just wrong.
He's better than Draisaitl and has proven that without a doubt this season in their head to heads. Some will argue Hedman is better but I think Matthews has proven he's right there with MacKinnon. He's been better defensively and as good offensively in a tougher division. Matthews will always be held just a little lower than he should because of the anti leaf bias that exists on here. Not saying you specifically but it's prevalent and does seem to lower Matthews perceived skill. The guy is running away with the Rocket and has been hurt for much of the season. Draisaitl has a pile of points but 75% have come with McDavid on the ice and yet Draisaitl is still supposed to be top 4? Draisaitl isn't top 10. He's a very good player no doubt but he's a star player playing with the best player in the world. Imagine how many goals Matthews would score if he had McDavid playing on his line? 50 in 50 would almost be a lock.
I think Matthews will be one of the most underrated players for years to come. Why? Because he doesn't ever even get any recognition for his defensive ability. Stone is considered the best defensive winger in the world because he gets takeaways all the time. Matthews is better than him at that and plays a more important position. So how does Matthews who's defensive metrics are better than almost every other elite centre never get recognized? I think it's a combination of reputation, and just how the mob thinks. He scores a lot so he's not good defensively. That is flat out just wrong.
If anything hes overrated. Drai is top 3 matthews is not better at all Drai won 3 awards last year without mcdavid remember Matthews highest points in a season is 80 draisaitl's is 110 big difference, the leafs bias is everywhere he is not close to drai at all.
He's better than Draisaitl and has proven that without a doubt this season in their head to heads. Some will argue Hedman is better but I think Matthews has proven he's right there with MacKinnon. He's been better defensively and as good offensively in a tougher division. Matthews will always be held just a little lower than he should because of the anti leaf bias that exists on here. Not saying you specifically but it's prevalent and does seem to lower Matthews perceived skill. The guy is running away with the Rocket and has been hurt for much of the season. Draisaitl has a pile of points but 75% have come with McDavid on the ice and yet Draisaitl is still supposed to be top 4? Draisaitl isn't top 10. He's a very good player no doubt but he's a star player playing with the best player in the world. Imagine how many goals Matthews would score if he had McDavid playing on his line? 50 in 50 would almost be a lock.
I think Matthews will be one of the most underrated players for years to come. Why? Because he doesn't ever even get any recognition for his defensive ability. Stone is considered the best defensive winger in the world because he gets takeaways all the time. Matthews is better than him at that and plays a more important position. So how does Matthews who's defensive metrics are better than almost every other elite centre never get recognized? I think it's a combination of reputation, and just how the mob thinks. He scores a lot so he's not good defensively. That is flat out just wrong.
Matthews will never be underrated, he plays Toronto every time he does something the Toronto Media freaks out.
Panarin is better than Crosby and Draisital, he has the 2nd most PPG this year, and the most even strength points of any player since 2019, beating out Connor McDavid with 10 more EV points in 4 less games
Until last year Panarin was a just very good 70-80 guy, but now that he plays for a big market team he gets hype. If is better then last years HART TROPHY WINNER then why was it such a surprise that CBJ beat Tampa in 2018-19.
If anything hes overrated. Drai is top 3 matthews is not better at all Drai won 3 awards last year without mcdavid remember Matthews highest points in a season is 80 draisaitl's is 110 big difference, the leafs bias is everywhere he is not close to drai at all.
here you are again on another post making stupid arguments, over their careers matthews has better point production and goal production and better defensively, drai benefits from mcdavid in 2 ways. 1 is if hes playing with him, then that speaks for itself and 2, when he isnt playing with him, mcdavid takes away the tough assignment by drawing the opponents best defensive matchup. matthews is playing the top d matchup night in and night out
remember youre the same guy who used highlights as an argument, so that should show your hockey knowledge
also funny you say leafs bias is everywhere but look at this post https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2353122 mostly everyone says matthews>drai and from different fan bases but yeah leaf fan bias
Until last year Panarin was a just very good 70-80 guy, but now that he plays for a big market team he gets hype. If is better then last years HART TROPHY WINNER then why was it such a surprise that CBJ beat Tampa in 2018-19.
Because they won 62 games, pretty obvious that they were the favourites.
here you are again on another post making stupid arguments, over their careers matthews has better point production and goal production and better defensively, drai benefits from mcdavid in 2 ways. 1 is if hes playing with him, then that speaks for itself and 2, when he isnt playing with him, mcdavid takes away the tough assignment by drawing the opponents best defensive matchup. matthews is playing the top d matchup night in and night out
remember youre the same guy who used highlights as an argument, so that should show your hockey knowledge
also funny you say leafs bias is everywhere but look at this post https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2353122 mostly everyone says matthews>drai and from different fan bases but yeah leaf fan bias
I'm not saying you are leafs bias, I'm saying drai IS better the stats show it.
Panarin is better than Crosby and Draisital, he has the 2nd most PPG this year, and the most even strength points of any player since 2019, beating out Connor McDavid with 10 more EV points in 4 less games
He's not better he hasn't done anything this season. he's a 70-80 point guy where drai is a 90-120 point guy.
He's better than Draisaitl and has proven that without a doubt this season in their head to heads. Some will argue Hedman is better but I think Matthews has proven he's right there with MacKinnon. He's been better defensively and as good offensively in a tougher division. Matthews will always be held just a little lower than he should because of the anti leaf bias that exists on here. Not saying you specifically but it's prevalent and does seem to lower Matthews perceived skill. The guy is running away with the Rocket and has been hurt for much of the season. Draisaitl has a pile of points but 75% have come with McDavid on the ice and yet Draisaitl is still supposed to be top 4? Draisaitl isn't top 10. He's a very good player no doubt but he's a star player playing with the best player in the world. Imagine how many goals Matthews would score if he had McDavid playing on his line? 50 in 50 would almost be a lock.
I think Matthews will be one of the most underrated players for years to come. Why? Because he doesn't ever even get any recognition for his defensive ability. Stone is considered the best defensive winger in the world because he gets takeaways all the time. Matthews is better than him at that and plays a more important position. So how does Matthews who's defensive metrics are better than almost every other elite centre never get recognized? I think it's a combination of reputation, and just how the mob thinks. He scores a lot so he's not good defensively. That is flat out just wrong.
Matthews is in easily the easiest division in the nhl right now. Not one of the teams he plays against is competent defensively. If he can keep up this pace (or close to it) next year playing every team in the league, then sure, he’s probably 3 or 4
I completely agree, take away Marner matthews is a 30 goal scorer in a full season, he has no awards drai takes the cake. Very very good list!
Draisaitl is a 70 point player in a good year without McDavid. Matthews scored 111 goals in his first 200 games and didn't spend any time with Marner. Your assessment is just insulting.