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Vegas Baby

Created by: worldwidesensei
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2021
Published: Jun. 16, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,200,000
2$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Stephenson, Chandler
  3. Theodore, Shea
  4. Tuch, Alex
  5. 2021 1st round pick (VGK)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($50 retained)
Additional Details:
Ristolainen 50% retained
2.
BUF
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar
  3. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
3.
BUF
  1. Subban, P.K.
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
Additional Details:
Sabres protect 3D - Dahlin, Theodore, Borgen; Trade Joki to get value
4.
BUF
    expansion draft
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$65,250,633$113,916$932,500$16,249,367
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 3
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
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    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $3,050,000$3,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
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    $5,200,000$5,200,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
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    $2,425,000$2,425,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
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    UFA - 4
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    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $889,166$889,166
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:15 a.m.
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    i'm sure Vegas fans are going to love the trade. i'll leave that one alone.
    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:22 a.m.
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner

    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...


    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.


    lolololol
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:25 a.m.
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    i'm sure Vegas fans are going to love the trade. i'll leave that one alone.
    Reinhart to the Rangers doesn't make sense. they are already log jammed at the wing...


    He would make a good 2C and that price is good to me
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    lolololol


    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals


    Over these past four years Zibanejad has 122 goals to Reinhart's 93, but you're basing him being a better scorer off of this past season where he happened to have one more goal.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:47 a.m.
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    Quoting: WuWuWuKennyWu
    Over these past four years Zibanejad has 122 goals to Reinhart's 93, but you're basing him being a better scorer off of this past season where he happened to have one more goal.


    Never said "better scorer". Not sure where you are getting that from. Messier has more goals than both over the past 100 years. What's your point? In this scenario, the Rangers have both Zibanejad and Reinhart. I don't see the problem.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:59 a.m.
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    Woooof. That is WAY too much. I’m not trading Tuch or Theodore period. Both are combined making less than Jack. Then you add in Krebs and Stephenson. I could care less about the first. But Theo or Tuch ain’t going anywhere, and with the flat cap I don’t think Krebs is either. They are going to need ELCs that can support the roster
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: VGKNation702
    Woooof. That is WAY too much. I’m not trading Tuch or Theodore period. Both are combined making less than Jack. Then you add in Krebs and Stephenson. I could care less about the first. But Theo or Tuch ain’t going anywhere, and with the flat cap I don’t think Krebs is either. They are going to need ELCs that can support the roster


    Been waiting to hear from Vegas! Would basically have to include Theodore and Tuch to make the cap work. Vegas has always been bold and you are missing that true #1C (you might no need one, but you are missing one). They don't come easy. Eichel + ? > Theodore + Tuch

    Certainly willing to negotiate. I would include Jokiharju (you get an RFA player) instead of Risto if you prefer. Stephenson isn't so necessary either, threw him in for cap purposes if you want Risto.

    Counter-offer (and I think this favors LV):
    Eichel + Joki <> Theodore,Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    He would make a good 2C and that price is good to me


    how does a player with less than 25 games as a C make a "good 2C"?
    his sample size as a C doesn't make him good at the position.

    his next contract ask is going to be high and I'd rather have Buch over Reinhart...
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I don't know what this means. Are you laughing because it's true?

    Reinhart 25 goals
    Zibanejad 24 goals


    Rangers fans generally don't have the best hockey IQ
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Reinhart would instantly become the highest scoring C/RW on the team. That always makes sense.


    not in the least bit.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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    Well that's a massive yikes on the Vegas trade! I'm not sure Vegas would trade Theodore straight up for Eichel let alone adding an insane amount of assets.
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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    Well that's a massive yikes on the Vegas trade! I'm not sure Vegas would trade Theodore straight up for Eichel let alone adding an insane amount of assets.


    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.


    Claiming Theodore is the #3D on Vegas makes everything you say irrelevant. What a stupid comment!
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    not in the least bit.


    I guess you don't understand 25 > 24.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    I guess you don't understand 25 > 24.


    Last 3 Seasons:
    Zib - 95 goals
    Reinhart - 69 goals
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Claiming Theodore is the #3D on Vegas makes everything you say irrelevant. What a stupid comment!


    ATOI
    Pietrangelo 24:26
    Martinez 22:34
    Theodore 22:33

    Just facts.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    ATOI
    Pietrangelo 24:26
    Martinez 22:34
    Theodore 22:33


    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    A straight up trade probably wouldn't work capwise for LV, but you're talking about the #3D on LV and a Hart Trophy candidate.

    Theodore & AP are the backbones of our defense. Theodore isn’t included in a deal because cap. He’s on an amazing contract let’s get real here. Eichel doesn’t fetch this return period. Furthermore teams are going to be a little cautious until they see what his recovery looks like.
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad


    Oh, some armchair fan from Philly knows better than the coach of the team. Right. I suppose if you were the coach, you would play the best players less than the worst players. That makes total sense, if your brain comes from Philly.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Oh, some armchair fan from Philly knows better than the coach of the team. Right.


    You clearly don't watch or know anything about hockey.
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    You clearly don't watch or know anything about hockey.


    Eichel > Theodore. Simple facts. I think you're showing your ignorance, not me.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: worldwidesensei
    Been waiting to hear from Vegas! Would basically have to include Theodore and Tuch to make the cap work. Vegas has always been bold and you are missing that true #1C (you might no need one, but you are missing one). They don't come easy. Eichel + ? > Theodore + Tuch

    Certainly willing to negotiate. I would include Jokiharju (you get an RFA player) instead of Risto if you prefer. Stephenson isn't so necessary either, threw him in for cap purposes if you want Risto.

    Counter-offer (and I think this favors LV):
    Eichel + Joki <> Theodore,Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd



    Lol counter offer Vegas doesn’t get Eichel. There’s zero chance I’m trading all that. Stephenson has been doing just fine as our 1C. 3 wins away from the SCF. Regardless of what happens to vegas from this point forward I can guarantee you there is no trade that happens with Theodore or Tuch
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    Didn't realize we only measure talent by TOI...my bad


    Never said talent...said #3 in the rotation.
     
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