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Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 31, 2021

Published: Jul. 31, 2021

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RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi		2	$2,000,000

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2022 3rd round pick (NYI)

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Drouin, Jonathan

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Eichel, Jack

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Primeau, Cayden
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21	$81,500,000	$65,657,144	$597,561	$1,175,000	$15,842,856

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 5	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric $950,000$950,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1
	Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Jul. 31, 2021 at 9:45 p.m.

Poehling

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Easy too do coming from a Leafs fans
MTL should throw Suzuki making sure Leafs beat the Habs every game this season

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 9:47 p.m.

Trotz2020

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Why would the Isles do that?

Jul. 31, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.

justaBoss

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Can't see Habs doing that.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.

BergevinBurner

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I don't mind taking a gamble on Eichel, but definitely not at that price.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 9:57 p.m.

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Quoting: Poehling

Easy too do coming from a Leafs fans
MTL should throw Suzuki making sure Leafs beat the Habs every game this season

Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

Quoting: BergevinBurner

I don't mind taking a gamble on Eichel, but definitely not at that price.

I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.

Quoting: Trotz2020

Why would the Isles do that?

Why not?

Quoting: justaBoss

Can't see Habs doing that.

If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:07 p.m.

justaBoss

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Habs are balls deep in Caufield. If they acquire Eichel they'd want to put Caufield to his wing to score those goals. Prior to Hoffman signing he was their only actual sniper.

Besides BUF would want a center. And after the Levi acquisition Primeau is fairly pointless at this point.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:14 p.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.

justaBoss

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.

They already have Luukkonen. They acquired Levi under the same rationale.

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

That's like when Toronto traded Rask cause they had Pogge.

More goalie prospects is better. Goalies are inconsistent.

Certainly no team is taking 5.5m Drouin just because Habs want cap space. Gee, I wouldn't trade 10m Eichel for 1m Caulfied. That 9m difference can get you a very good player.

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:48 p.m.

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Why are people still thinking Eichel is worth this bounty with so many question marks.. makes no sense

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

Why are people still thinking Eichel is worth this bounty with so many question marks.. makes no sense

He’s a Leafs, he is doing this on purpose
It’s like me doing a Leafs post trading Marner + Robertson + Sandin for Pesce because they need a good RHD shutdown dman

Jul. 31, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

Caufield is already playing 1RW lmao

I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.

Why not?

If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 11:02 p.m.

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Zegras/Suzuki/Caufield/Drysdale/Kakko/Lafreniere.

Not happening. Never once have I seen these names been floated.

It will be a Krebs type or Kravtsov. You are not getting a bonafide elite player in the nhl today at entry level contracts in this deal. Buffalo will have to shelter a lot of risk just like Eichel is a huge risk for the team getting him.

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Jul. 31, 2021 at 11:18 p.m.

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Quoting: OlegP

Zegras/Suzuki/Caufield/Drysdale/Kakko/Lafreniere.

Not happening. Never once have I seen these names been floated.

It will be a Krebs type or Kravtsov. You are not getting a bonafide elite player in the nhl today at entry level contracts in this deal. Buffalo will have to shelter a lot

of risk just like Eichel is a huge risk for the team getting him.

Exactly we all know eichel is a superstar and that he cost a lot but with the surgery that he need and the mysteri begin it, NO GM are gonna put big money like he would be worth normaly and what the Sabre ask right now. People have to understand exactly what you said

Neither of this guy are gonna be in a trade for Jack….

Jul. 31, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Poehling

He’s a Leafs, he is doing this on purpose
It’s like me doing a Leafs post trading Marner + Robertson + Sandin for Pesce because they need a good RHD shutdown dman

Lol... the pieces I have in this trade are bearly worth Marner alone. He had the 4th most points out of any player in the entire NHL.

Eichel is a franchise C. Pesce isn't even the best D man on his team.

Habs fans keep saying Eichel is damaged goods but he was injured last season and was getting more points per game than anyone on your whole team. Imagine what he can do healthy.

Jul. 31, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Marner is dog**** in the playoffs
Who cares what he can do in the regular season
We don’t care what Eichel is if it means Suzuki or Caufield going the other way

Jul. 31, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.

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Quoting: Poehling

Marner is dog**** in the playoffs
Who cares what he can do in the regular season
We don’t care what Eichel is if it means Suzuki or Caufield going the other way

That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.

Aug. 1, 2021 at 12:14 a.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.

Kotkaniemi is a bust because of what ? That he didn’t produce like a 3OA at 18-19-20 yo ?

Aug. 1, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.

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Quoting: Poehling

Kotkaniemi is a bust because of what ? That he didn’t produce like a 3OA at 18-19-20 yo ?

I wouldn't give up a 1st for him and he was the 3rd OA pick.

Aug. 1, 2021 at 12:40 a.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

I wouldn't give up a 1st for him and he was the 3rd OA pick.

That’s because you didn’t watched him play

Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.

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Just asking, would you want Matthews+Marner+Robertson+Campbell for Danault since you need a shutdown centre?

Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:28 a.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

That's fine. I'm just showing you guys what it takes. I'm tired of KK (bust) + 1st (nice piece) + Drouin (cap dump) for Eichel. It's not even remotely close.

How is KK a bust? He already has more playoff goals than Mitch Marner, who certainly isn't a bust.

Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.

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Edited Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.

Quoting: joesunsunjoe

Just asking, would you want Matthews+Marner+Robertson+Campbell for Danault since you need a shutdown centre?

Matthews is worth more than Suzuki + Caufield + Primeau.

You gotta pay for legit franchise 1Cs. I don't think you've seen Eichel play very much if you don't think this is a legit offer.

Danault is overpaid. Habs had the cap space but still didn't re-sign him.

Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.

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Quoting: joesunsunjoe

How is KK a bust? He already has more playoff goals than Mitch Marner, who certainly isn't a bust.

He's averaging 29 points per 82 game season and he was drafted higher than Marner.

As a Sens fan I gotta thank you for gifting us Tkachuk.

Aug. 1, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Putting in Suzuki would make this trade useless. The reason the Habs trade for Eichel is to solidfy themselves at centre.

I think that's what it takes to get him. I honestly think the trade improves Montreal in a big way. If you like Suzuki you'll love Eichel. He's a bigger more skilled and more talented version of Suzuki.

Why not?

If they get a legit franchise 1C they are strong in every other position.

Caufield would be playing on the 3rd line, Primeau would be in the AHL and the 2 1sts will be late ones. I don't see why not.

Caufield's position next to Suzuki is his to lose. If he does lose it, he's better off getting more time in the AHL and coming back stronger.

This is at least reasonable, but I'd put conditions on the 1sts. Buffalo has legitimate concerns with regards to his surgery and there's at least a possibility we won't get the player we are paying for.
(I also think it should be the player's choice to get the surgery he wants.)

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