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DeMelo D core shake up

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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2021
Published: Aug. 13, 2021
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Chara is really really bad now
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Jets are probably keeping DeMelo, doubt they'd retain salary if they did decide to trade him.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Jets are probably keeping DeMelo, doubt they'd retain salary if they did decide to trade him.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:31 p.m.
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    HARD HARD PASS BY JETS
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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    I mean in all fairness it’s from a leafs fan so I don’t know why I was expecting it to be a reasonable trade
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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    There is no incentive for the Jets to do that. Why would they weaken their defense?
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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    Jets don't have the cap space to retain just to accommodate the Leafs.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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    Edited Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.
    Why would they jets. 1 trade demelo, 2 retain on him?

    If jets were having further cap issues( they won’t) but dermott for demelo no retention might tempt them but they aren’t trading for the lesser dman without cause bc of cap issues
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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    those guys arent getting waived lol
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    Jets don't have the cap space to retain just to accommodate the Leafs.


    DeMelo isn't getting a 2nd without retention.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    DeMelo isn't getting a 2nd without retention.


    Well you aren’t getting him without Sandin in the trade
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Well you aren’t getting him without Sandin in the trade


    In fact he’s not waiving for Toronto anyways so
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Ah yes the classing "sign a free agent and put them on waivers" move.
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    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    I mean in all fairness it’s from a leafs fan so I don’t know why I was expecting it to be a reasonable trade


    This response tells me you think nothing involving the Leafs is reasonable unless it's absolutely without a doubt 1 sided against them.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 8:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Well you aren’t getting him without Sandin in the trade


    And there it is, the absolutely 1 sided trade that is somehow reasonable.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 10:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    No this is one sided for you and that’s typical leafs fan s*it at its best


    I am not sure a 2nd gets retention but a 2nd for Demelo is pretty reasonable. Asking for Sandin is just insane. I suppose Copp is worth Nylander at 50% retained as well.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    I am not sure a 2nd gets retention but a 2nd for Demelo is pretty reasonable. Asking for Sandin is just insane. I suppose Copp is worth Nylander at 50% retained as well.


    I forgot to mention that DeMelo has a NTC and he’s not waiving it for Toronto
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    I forgot to mention that DeMelo has a NTC and he’s not waiving it for Toronto


    Well that is something neither of us can answer. However, I will once again say, asking for Sandin is just silly. Funny how I said you were one of the people who thinks reasonable is a slam dunk one sided trade where the Leafs lose and then suggest Demelo is worth Sandin as a starting point. You do understand that totally proves my point.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.
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    Well that is something neither of us can answer. However, I will once again say, asking for Sandin is just silly. Funny how I said you were one of the people who thinks reasonable is a slam dunk one sided trade where the Leafs lose and then suggest Demelo is worth Sandin as a starting point. You do understand that totally proves my point.


    Well if you can’t offer anything useful you guys can keep your fantasy’s that way
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Well if you can’t offer anything useful you guys can keep your fantasy’s that way


    This is the response of a person who knows they are soundly defeated but refuses to admit it. Demelo for a 2nd is fair.
    Aug. 13, 2021 at 11:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    This is the response of a person who knows they are soundly defeated but refuses to admit it. Demelo for a 2nd is fair.


    DeMelo is a good defensive defensemen who fits in well with Winnipeg and Chevy likes him why would he ever want to trade him

    Give me 5 good reasons and I’ll believe you
    Aug. 14, 2021 at 1:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Jets are probably keeping DeMelo, doubt they'd retain salary if they did decide to trade him.


    I mean there gonna need cap space to extend PLD and Copp and get a proper backup for buck. Plus Heinola or Samberg need a spot. So hes probs gonna get moved at some point

    That said its probs a 2nd + something else with no retention
    Aug. 14, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
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    Quoting: IconicHawk
    I forgot to mention that DeMelo has a NTC and he’s not waiving it for Toronto


    Do you have any proof of this? DeMelo only has a 6 team NTC and there are 32 teams in the league. I can't imagine he'd leave teams like Buffalo, Arizona and Chicago off that list.

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    I mean in all fairness it’s from a leafs fan so I don’t know why I was expecting it to be a reasonable trade

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    Well you aren’t getting him without Sandin in the trade

    Quoting: IconicHawk
    Well if you can’t offer anything useful you guys can keep your fantasy’s that way


    Talk about fantasies. Since when is a 28 year old 3rd pairing D man worth an A tier prospect? If that's the market I'll give you Dermott for Perfetti.

    Quoting: IconicHawk
    DeMelo is a good defensive defensemen who fits in well with Winnipeg and Chevy likes him why would he ever want to trade him

    Give me 5 good reasons and I’ll believe you


    1. Jets are over the cap.
    2. They need to move a player to get under the cap.
    3. They just traded for Dillon and Schmidt.
    4. They just signed Stastny and Lowry.
    5. They aren't moving Connor, Scheifele, Dubois, Ehlers, Pionk or Hellebuyck.
    6. Only other player making more than 1.5M is DeMelo.
    7. They left DeMelo exposed in the expansion draft.
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    Aug. 14, 2021 at 1:45 a.m.
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    As a Jets fan, I actually like that deal. DeMelo isn’t THAT good, and we need to get rid of one of our defenceman if Heinola is gonna play this season.
    Aug. 14, 2021 at 7:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: aadoyle
    I mean there gonna need cap space to extend PLD and Copp and get a proper backup for buck. Plus Heinola or Samberg need a spot. So hes probs gonna get moved at some point

    That said its probs a 2nd + something else with no retention


    I guess, he can go for whatever as far as I'm concerned, DeMelo is pretty overrated imo just don't see retention happening if they moved him.

    Depending on the season he has and if he even wants to extend in Winnipeg PLD'S raise might be doable with Stastny coming off the books and Beaulieu expiring frees up a bit more but yeah its pretty tight to make it all fit after the Schmidt and Dillon trades.
    It's ridiculous that Heinola looks like he's the odd man out this year unless another move on the backend is coming, the kid is ready for the NHL.
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