Quoting: lilfimpen
Not even close on Hertl. You want our best player and one of the best centers in the game you better be prepared to move Newhook.
Quoting: lrw2105
Interesting. Reading between the lines of Kevin Kurz over the past several months, Meier, Leblanc, and Simek seem to be on the block. SJS FO may have soured a bit on Meier, feeling that he's not quite living up to his contract and that he may be on the E Kane side of the locker room divisions. NJD may well be interested in Meier, but teams finding the last year of his deal a bit too cash rich - the possibility of the 10mill qualifying offer less of an issue now that Meier is not viewed as that level of player and the cap isn't rising quickly. Speculation of speculation of course.
COL should jump at that, but SJS would want a Seth Jones style return. Hertl's value so difficult to ascertain, as it comes down to how much he wields his very broad NTC and if he's being moved as a rental or willing to sign a contract with his new team. In terms of desirable locations or contenders, NYR might offer more.
Quoting: NMAvsFan
There is truth to that but it's important to remember that Hertl holds a lot of the cards here. He can basically choose where he wants to go and Wilson can find the best deal available from those 3 clubs or he risks letting him walk for nothing in the off-season. I'd think, if Hertl says he doesn't want to re-sign, he gets traded whether or not the Sharks get exactly what they want in return.
For the record, I think it's fair to ask for Newhook considering that Hertl is a known quantity, is pretty young and would put the Avs on a higher tier immediately. It's more realistic that Newhook would be included in a deal for Hertl but what most Avs fans would want to offer comes from the defensive depth in the system which is understandable. IMO, it's a tough call because you know what you're getting in Hertl but you're also giving up a potential 60-70 point two-way center who comes at cost-control for a while. The thing is, even if all the Sharks could get back was a good defensive prospect that they don't think they need, they can flip that asset for something they do need (forwards) from another team that needs defensive prospects. If I'm the Sharks, I take that if it's the best offer overall.
I took the reported asking price and worked with what's available from Colorado's perspective. Guys like Newhook simply aren't available these days. It's part of why Eichel is still in Buffalo. Maybe that changes with Hertl, but the trade protection makes me think that won't be the case.
Barron is a very good prospect. I'd hate to lose him tbh. And adding a first plus more is a fair starting point (imo).
If Newhook is a must for SJ, it's likely a non-starter for Colorado. They can try and get a better return elsewhere. Sometimes deals don't work, and this could be one of those instances. Hertl is really freaking good, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone pays more. I don't think it will be the Avs though.