Domi, with retention, *and* a cap dump of Kassian are gonna cost more than a 2nd and an AHL player.

kassian isnt a cap dump, hes a great player with great p/60

jackets decline

If Hawks move Flowers because they are out of the race, they will get more from other teams

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He's a cap dump.

oh my friend hes worse than a cap dump, he sucks balls, oilers fans disagree and will argue he has value, was trying to be comical

"Based only on 2020-21 data." Look a little further - players aren't 100% defined by one injury-riddled, shortened season.

Then keep him. We don’t want him so to us he’s worthless to us.
I wouldn’t claim him off waivers.

Which season beyond 19-20 should I use as the basis for how great he secretly is?



Just wanted to rope you in on this one.

hes the main one lol

i wouldnt take him 100% retained

I usually look at 2 seasons.

Increasing your sample size is important (coming from a CBJ fan who is constantly chided by people who seem to forget last season wasn't Patrik Laine's first in the league, I understand), but two seasons feels like a convenient and arbitrary way to measure someone like Kassian, whose 19-20 season was a clear outlier in an 11 year career that has largely shown him to be nothing more than a replacement-level bottom-six winger, when he is not otherwise benefitting from skating with one Connor McDavid.

He's a cap dump.

He scored 15 goals in both 18-19 and 19-20. If I was trying to game the numbers I would suggest going back 3 years, but I'm not. I think the truth is somewhere between 19-20 Kassian and 20-21 Kassian, which is why I'm using an average of the two (by combining the seasons). That and I generally look at 2 years as I don't think what someone did 3+ years ago is generally very relevant.

I get the argument about how he plays away from McDavid, but honestly if you look at who he was playing with when away from McDavid you'll see why he didn't score much. His other centers are hardly even NHL players: Brodziak, Haas, Sheahan, Turris, Granlund, Shore, etc. In any case, over the past 3 years he played 1190 minutes with McDavid and scored 20 goals (all numbers are 5v5) for a scoring rate of 1.01 G/60, without McDavid he played 1037 minutes and scored 9 goals for a scoring rate of 0.52 G/60, which is a 3rd line rate. When you factor in his linemates, that's not bad scoring.

I suspect we'll have a clearer picture of what he brings this season given that he'll have actual NHL linemates in the bottom-6. I don't think he gets moved until next summer and his value at that time will be influenced by how he performs this season.

Edmonton will gladly keep Kassian this year. He's done well for them in the past and should recover this year since he's fully healthy and will have decent linemates on the 3rd line.

He has no value to CBJ because they aren't a playoff team.

I mean, why not go back four years, then? all of this just says “he’s an average bottom-6 winger,” which is my point. If he *werent* signed for $3.2M for three more years, no one would particularly care.

If it took 1190 minutes of playtime with McDavid at the age of 28 for him to become serviceable…well…good luck moving that contract without attaching assets to it. He doesn’t just have no value to CBJ, he doesn’t really bring added value to most teams.

Point being, he’s a cap dump.

No he has no value to cbj because he’s a bottom 6 forward which we have like 12 plus he makes over 3 million. No playoff team that has the cap is like. Let’s bring on kassian to eat up 3+ million. Eat half and you might get something.

Hey now. He’s great in post game interviews especially after playing the flames. Lol

No

Let’s put it this way - there are plenty of Zach Kassians in the AHL who could be signed for *not* $3.2M dollars for three years.