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Kravtsov to SJS

Created by: Mursu
Initial Creation Date: Oct 17, 2021
Published: Oct 17 at 11:51
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
Fair trade SJS?
Pajuniemi is on the 3rd because I really like him and see him as the perfect slot in for the Rangers on the 3rd.
Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't

If you disagree with this trade, let me know in the comments (also there is a reason none of are the actual GM of any team, so don't get heated).
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  2. 2022 7th round pick (NYI)
OTT
  1. Strome, Ryan
2.
NYR
  1. Hertl, Tomas
SJS
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Reunanen, Tarmo
  3. Brodzinski, Jonny
  4. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
  6. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
3.
NYR
  1. 2024 5th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Hájek, Libor
Buyouts
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
NYR
NYR
STL
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYI
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ARI
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$73,025,219$0$7,632,500$8,474,781

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
$3,641,667
LW, C, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$2,300,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Pajuniemi, Lauri
$883,750
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Blais, Samuel
$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$5,666,667
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,425,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
$2,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Tinordi, Jarred
$900,000
LD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Panarin, A.
Hertl, T.
Kreider, C.
Zibanejad, M.
Fox, A.
Power Play 2
Lafrenière, A.
Chytil, F.
Kakko, K.
Pajuniemi, L.
Lundkvist, N.
Penalty Kill 1
Goodrow, B.
Rooney, K.
Lindgren, R.
Fox, A.
Penalty Kill 2
Zibanejad, M.
Kakko, K.
Miller, K.
Trouba, J.

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Oct 17 at 11:53
#1
Ragsandbluesfan
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Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st
Oct 17 at 11:53
#2
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Kravtsov and the first is more than enough
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Oct 17 at 11:54
#3
Thread Starter
New York Rangers
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st


Well think Ottawa = insert team name here
Oct 17 at 11:56
#4
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Rest is filler besides the 2nd really
Oct 17 at 11:58
#5
Thread Starter
New York Rangers
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work
Oct 18 at 12:00
#6
STL
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty
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Oct 18 at 12:02
#7
Thread Starter
New York Rangers
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy
Oct 18 at 12:03
#8
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er
Oct 18 at 12:03
#9
STL
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Quoting: Mursu
If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy


That's a potential top prospect and potential lottery pick. SJS would take that for sure.
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Oct 18 at 12:04
#10
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The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made
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Oct 18 at 12:06
#11
Thread Starter
New York Rangers
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas
Oct 18 at 12:07
#12
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?
Oct 18 at 12:07
#13
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


Sue. It’s an overpay
Oct 18 at 12:08
#14
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New York Rangers
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er


Tarmo is a B-Tier prospect no sugar coating it but a talented one at that, ill admit
Oct 18 at 12:08
#15
Quaaludes
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This is an easy no
Oct 18 at 12:08
#16
STL
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?


No, I think it's more than generous.
Oct 18 at 12:09
#17
STL
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


You're out of your mind.
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Oct 18 at 12:09
#18
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Quoting: Mursu
I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas


Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that
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Oct 18 at 12:09
#19
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please
Oct 18 at 12:10
#20
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.
Oct 18 at 12:11
#21
STL
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


Also true. No way in hell NYR can afford to extend Hertl and Fox.
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Oct 18 at 12:11
#22
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Quoting: mvp13
Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that


Just make deals where the AAV hit goes growing past 2024 (with the CBA coming to an end) in a post-covid world the salary cap should shoot up so that is possible to make it work
Oct 18 at 12:11
#23
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Quoting: Mursu
I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please


Don't even humor him.
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Oct 18 at 12:14
#24
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Quoting: glarson17
Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.


Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.
Oct 18 at 12:20
#25
STL
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Quoting: Mursu
Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.


Your argument was fine until you included Barzal in that group.
 
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