Acquire girard at tdl 21 sign lindholm off-season

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Created by: contextkobe

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 9, 2021

Published: Nov. 10, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

-Acquire girard in February ‘22. Not sure what the cost would be but I think the wings are the most in need/qualified for him as a young top 4 d-man. Wings have all the assets Colorado is looking for in that deal.
-sign lindholm big bucks for short term. Wings benefit: too-line LHD in his prime to pair up with Seider and top off the top 4+guide promising upcoming swedish defensemen edvinsson, Johansson, lindstrom. His benefit: make more annually with a short contract and can get another big one from another team when he hits the market again, and the cap increases.
-let the young LHD compete for their minutes/oesterle is serviceable. Top 2 LHD will load tons of minutes anyway.
-this becomes a better-than-average D unit.

-top line is absolutely shredding
-center depth hinges on Veleno’s development
-maybe bring back namestnikov if berggren’s development isn’t quite there.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Edvinsson, Simon		3	$950,000
Söderblom, Elmer		3	$925,000

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Zadina, Filip		1	$2,300,000
Stephens, Mitchell		2	$1,350,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Lindholm, Hampus	1	$6,500,000
Pickard, Calvin	1	$800,000
Jones, Martin	2	$2,750,000
DeKeyser, Danny	1	$1,000,000
Gagner, Sam	1	$1,000,000
Rowney, Carter	1	$900,000
McKegg, Greg	1	$900,000

Trades

DET

Girard, Samuel
2024 2nd round pick (COL)

COL

Rasmussen, Michael
Viro, Eemil
2024 4th round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

This trade is for 2022 tdl

Greiss and leddy traded with 50% salary retained

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$56,288,056	$0	$3,775,000	$25,211,944

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $2,375,000$2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Suter, Pius $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Zadina, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) C RFA - 1	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Smith, Givani $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Stephens, Mitchell $1,350,000$1,350,000 C UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindholm, Hampus $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD UFA - 8	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Jones, Martin $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
DeKeyser, Danny $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA
Rowney, Carter $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA
McKegg, Greg $900,000$900,000 C, LW UFA - 2

Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:40 a.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Knowing that Avs is contending, what's the point of moving Girard to surplus prospects?

The offer is far from enough and even if Avs were considering moving Girard they'd want someone who could help their current run.

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:51 a.m.

Bdawwwgy1

CbjSabresDucks

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Not even close.

Think Zadina, or something like Hronek ++.

Nov. 10, 2021 at 6:04 a.m.

Jfstompers

Pop Pop

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Girard will cost a bundle, thats not a good offer. Lindholm ismt going to sign a 1 year deal. He'll get a long term deal from somewhere.

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 6:51 a.m.

RedWing9119

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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1

Not even close.

Think Zadina, or something like Hronek ++.

Hronek ++? I don't think so. Hronek has averaged more ppg while playing against the other teams best every night. And on a much worse team! Girard has also been protected WAY more throughout his career. Also, as a bonus he's 2 inches shorter and that's being generous. Yzerman doesn't like small defenseman anyway so this is all irrelevant.

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 7:50 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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That's not even close to enough for Colorado to even start the conversation. They decline easily.

As others said, Lindholm will be looking for term as well.

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.

redw1n9s

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This makes no sense - why are the Avs selling at the deadline?

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.

coga16

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girds not available for future parts, hes not available at all

If you want him you have to offer something of value that helps the avs contend now, not this. Not even close

Nov. 10, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.

coga16

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Quoting: RedWing9119

explain how Girard has ben protected throughout his career? Explain this post. Unless you have actual analytical evidence to prove this, you are blowing hot air

Nov. 10, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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Quoting: coga16

girds not available for future parts, hes not available at all

If you want him you have to offer something of value that helps the avs contend now, not this. Not even close

Yea, I don't see any scenario that a Girard to Detroit trade makes sense in season. MAYBE in the off-season, but even then, some stars would need to PERFECTLY align, for it to happen. I can't see Detroit giving up what Girard would cost and Colorado would be insane to take below market value for him, as I'm sure they can get several teams into a bidding war. Hell, Montreal alone would probably give up their next 7 1st round picks for him with the way their defense looks right now...

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

The only player that on paper makes sense for the avs would be bertuzzi extended. But even then he’s family has a bad history in Denver

There is a world that girard could be moved hb the summer but it’s for a young top 6 fwd that has cost certainty with a long term contact, that is girards biggest draw he’s good while being locked into a god contact

Unless avs are getting that back in a fwd, I don’t any logic in these girard proposals

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.

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will9739

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I think that you're definitely on track with what this team needs. A 1LD and a 1C/2C and this team will be very competitive. If we see Veleno full time next year (he has been impressive so far this year) and if Berggren is ready and he makes it into the lineup I would rather see Namestikov on the team in the bottom six rather than G Smith. Smith hasn't impressed at all this year.

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Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.

#12

RedWing9119

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Quoting: coga16

explain how Girard has ben protected throughout his career? Explain this post. Unless you have actual analytical evidence to prove this, you are blowing hot air

Seriously? It would take you 2 seconds to look up his zone starts compared to Hronek. Do it yourself or STFU.

Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.

#13

RedWing9119

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Quoting: redw1n9s

This makes no sense - why are the Avs selling at the deadline?

I'm guessing this is in response to him being in trade rumors.

Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.

#14

RedWing9119

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Quoting: coga16

Which is why I didn't argue with the other poster about Zadina...

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