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Harsh but necessary

Created by: Turkish_Canuck
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2021
Published: Dec. 14, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Team Explanation
Have tried to be fair with the trades, but understand they're still ambitious. Have also tried to be realistic with regard to Rutherford's own trading style.

These trades have been made on the proviso that:

The Canucks do NOT make the 2021/22 playoffs.
The Bruins & Rangers DO make the 2021/22 playoffs.
The Canucks are then in a position to bring in Filip Forsberg in the offseason.

I'm also fairly certain we could get a 1st rounder for Motte at the deadline instead of two 2nds, but have tried to be a little bit more realistic.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Demers, Jason1$750,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Määttä, Olli
LAK
  1. Poolman, Tucker
2.
VAN
  1. Henriksson, Karl
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NYR)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
NYR
  1. Motte, Tyler
Additional Details:
AT TRADE DEADLINE
3.
VAN
  1. Olson, Quinn [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2023 6th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Miller, J.T.
4.
VAN
  1. Fabbro, Dante
NSH
  1. Bailey, Justin
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
Buyouts
  • Braden Holtby: $500,000
  • Jake Virtanen: $50,000
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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Logo of the BOS
2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$73,206,384$648,780$3,565,000$8,293,616

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Podkolzin, Vasily
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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Pearson, Tanner
$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Lammikko, Juho
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Di Giuseppe, Phillip
$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Henriksson, Karl
$870,000
C
RFA - 3
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Lockwood, William
$842,500
RW
RFA - 1
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Dowling, Justin
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Demers, Jason
$750,000
RD
UFA
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Halák, Jaroslav
$1,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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Määttä, Olli
$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 1
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Burroughs, Kyle
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Rathbone, Jack
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Fabbro, Dante
$2,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Sutter, Brandon
$1,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Keeper, Brady
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
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Highmore, Matthew
$725,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Garland, C.
 
Pettersson, E.
Hughes, Q.
Boeser, B.
Power Play 2
Höglander, N.
Pearson, T.
Podkolzin, V.
Ekman-Larsson, O.
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Penalty Kill 1
Di Giuseppe, P.
Lammikko, J.
Ekman-Larsson, O.
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Penalty Kill 2
Pettersson, E.
Podkolzin, V.
Määttä, O.
Schenn, L.

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Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Take your biased glasses off for a second. You have heavily overvalued your players for VAN.

Myers is on one of the worst contracts in the league for another 2 years. Why would NSH give up a top 4 dman AND A 2ND, for a 5 mill 3rd pairing dman on the decline? Lose cap space, the better player and they can't resign Forsberg. Makes 0 sense.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.
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Sorry, but that might be the worst Fabbro deal I've seen on this site. Myers is a cap dump, but somehow NSH is giving up a young top 4 defenseman + 2nd rounder for him... Not a chance. With this framework, VAN would probably need to add a couple of 1sts going back to NSH.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: villenash
Sorry, but that might be the worst Fabbro deal I've seen on this site. Myers is a cap dump, but somehow NSH is giving up a young top 4 defenseman + 2nd rounder for him... Not a chance. With this framework, VAN would probably need to add a couple of 1sts going back to NSH.


Fair enough. The 2nd in return was simply for the $1mil retained salary (which was the same as the Canucks paid the Yotes for OEL).
However, as this is rightly a cap dump I have edited the trade accordingly.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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Preds and NYR decline easily.

While Boston really needs a guy like JT. Can’t see them going 4 out of 5 years without a 1st. They have to find a way to add to this team without giving 1sts. The cupboard is already bare enough due to bad drafting and trading away 1sts.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
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The Kings have Doughty, Roy, Durzi, and Walker on the right. With several prospects (Clarke, Grans) on the way why would they want or need 4 years of poolman?
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
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Quoting: tryger
The Kings have Doughty, Roy, Durzi, and Walker on the right. With several prospects (Clarke, Grans) on the way why would they want or need 4 years of poolman?


Very true, perhaps I had overestimated the Kings desire to part with Määttä.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:32 a.m.
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Very true, perhaps I had overestimated the Kings desire to part with Määttä.


We don’t necessarily want Maata, but until they have a better LD than Wolanin, they have to keep Maata as their 7th.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:34 a.m.
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Yeah Motte isn’t worth that much. Preds decline
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Turkish_Canuck
Fair enough. The 2nd in return was simply for the $1mil retained salary (which was the same as the Canucks paid the Yotes for OEL).
However, as this is rightly a cap dump I have edited the trade accordingly.


That’s still not enough for NSH. I don’t see any team taking on Myers and actually giving back anything of value. That’s closer to the value of just dumping Myers (probably still need some retention and maybe upgrade the 4th) — still need the value for including Fabbro. Teams aren’t just taking on $6m, multi-year contract cap dumps for nothing.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:51 a.m.
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I cant see many teams paying 2 firsts for a rental anymore. i just dont see it. might be worth it but idk who is actually paying that cost.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 10:53 a.m.
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That Tyler Motte trade is pretty special. I thought I must have missed where he suddenly became really good, but apparently not...
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
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That Tyler Motte trade is pretty special. I thought I must have missed where he suddenly became really good, but apparently not...


I know right....you could probably have Motte for a late round pick.
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