Stuck Playing Checkers

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 2

Created by: jjkhairaELTE99

Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2022

Published: Jan. 31, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

traded in the offseason FOR SURE:
- Barrie
- Kassian

Forward group seems good enough in this scheme and the depth guys are fine as long as Shore is no longer considered an option cause he and sceviour are brutal.

Realistically, The Dcore is stuck as it is for the most part. Kulack is a sound DFD when played as a 3rd pair dman on an actual NHL quality roster. Adds some much need physicality. Adding russell is just to make sure the money works for the oilers and the habs still have a roster player for ROS. Its a cap savings for the habs regardless and they get draft capital for guy that most likely doesn't re-sign anyways.

The goaltending is difficult as any realistic option isn't sexy. Long-Term Options won't be available till the offseason so need to find something that can give the Oilers the best play for its price tag. That to me is Holtby. Dallas most likely will be out of it by the TDL and he would be a nice addition that is cost-effective in terms of Cap Hit and Trade Pieces. Flower would be FAR too costly and the guys available that have an extra yr are a bit too risky for my liking (if anything they'd be fine secondary options if the initial LT options don't pan out). I think getting holtby will help gauge exactly where this team is for the remainder of the year and give one more offseason to find the faults of this team and address them with high-value system assets (picks, prospects). After that, the roster (whatever it may be) will be set in stone for a while.

Some trade pieces to consider moving in the offseason to help bolster the roster in key areas:
- Yamo rights (RFA)
- Foegele
- 1st Rd Pick (2022 & 2023)
- Bourgeault
- Broberg
- One of.... Petrov, Tullio, Savoie, or Beryozkin
-Samorukov
- Keith (on his final yr and having a good szn so far so Maybe moveable?)

Trades

EDM

Kulak, Brett

MTL

Russell, Kris
2022 5th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Holtby, Braden

DAL

Koskinen, Mikko
Safin, Ostap
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667
Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Buried

Kyle Turris: $525,000 ($1,650,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$76,055,664	$669,339	$1,307,500	$5,444,336

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $2,108,696$2,108,696 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 5	Yamamoto, Kailer $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW RFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW UFA - 1
Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) LW, C RFA - 3	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 8	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7
Perlini, Brendan $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan $834,167$834,167 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 1	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Benson, Tyler $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Holtby, Braden $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Skinner, Stuart $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Lagesson, William $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Smith, Mike $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
		Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Sceviour, Colton $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, C UFA - 1
Koekkoek, Slater $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 2

Jan. 31, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

I don’t think its as simple as “trading in the off season, for sure,” when it comes to Barrie and kassian. No one wants them.

palhal liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.

yeboi6

CUP OR BUST

Joined: Sep. 2020

Posts: 750

Likes: 365

holtby isnt a big upgrade over mikko

Jan. 31, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.

Snipe52

Joined: Jan. 2021

Posts: 166

Likes: 89

I think you could get Kulak for a 5th. But we will take Russel if you need the cap space

jjkhairaELTE99 liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.

Burnout

Joined: Jan. 2022

Posts: 1,668

Likes: 1,004

You can just keep Russell.

CD282 and BorisBagel liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.

Timmah007

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 8,634

Likes: 3,931

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I don’t think its as simple as “trading in the off season, for sure,” when it comes to Barrie and kassian. No one wants them.

Ya history suggests teams don’t generally show interest in rd with proven track record of highly productive play. Haha ya right

CD282 liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 6:09 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: Timmah007

Ya history suggests teams don’t generally show interest in rd with proven track record of highly productive play. Haha ya right

Cmon pal. Everyone knows he stinks. There’s a reason every other edmonton post is trying to find a way to get rid of him. He’s such a liability a good team can’t put him on the ice.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.

rpain

Joined: Aug. 2019

Posts: 1,549

Likes: 838

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Cmon pal. Everyone knows he stinks. There’s a reason every other edmonton post is trying to find a way to get rid of him. He’s such a liability a good team can’t put him on the ice.

Barrie's start to the year was abysmal but has been decent after that rough stretch. On the right team, he'd be an asset. In Edmonton, non of the LHD (or the RHD for that matter) are solid defensively except for Kris Russell (who's in and out of the line-up). Toronto did the same thing by playing him with other offensively minded dmen. If you utilize him similar to how Washington/Pittsburgh did in Justin Schultz' post Oiler days, he would be a positive asset.

CD282 liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

Posts: 23,653

Likes: 12,372

The Oilers won't trade Russell.

CD282 liked this.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: rpain

His only viable utilization in my opinion is a third pair, very sheltered D that gets the lions share of PP time. I’m talking like 8 minutes even strength, 4+ pp per night. That shouldn’t cost 4.5

Jan. 31, 2022 at 8:21 p.m.

#10

Timmah007

Joined: Jun. 2020

Posts: 8,634

Likes: 3,931

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

So to get the most of out of a guy who needs puck touch’s to be effective is to diminish his ice time. You just make less sense with each comment maybe take a few days break or stick to players you actually follow and know.

Jan. 31, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.

#11

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: Timmah007

…..ya, so you put him out in the situations where he’s going to get the puck the most. Powerplay. This isn’t rocket science.

The problem with, “the more he touches the puck,” argument is also that the more he’s on the ice, the more goals his team gives up, and the more his team loses.

Again, not rocket science. Ever wonder why most oilers ACGMs have him being moved?

Feb. 2, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.

#12

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: yeboi6

holtby isnt a big upgrade over mikko

??? in what sense? he's having a great year and costs 2mil less. plus he has a track record of killing it in the playoffs which will be very welcomed.

EsoYeezus69 liked this.

Feb. 2, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.

#13

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: MisstheWhalers

The Oilers won't trade Russell.

if they can get an actual roster dman and use him to move money they for sure will. The guy is the 8th best dman on the team on a good day. Kulack will be a big upgrade for the 3rd pair for cheap

Feb. 2, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.

#14

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Kassian has not much value. He's a cap dump to a team needing an NHL contract. Barrie does have value due to his track record as being a solid OFD that can QB a powerplay that desperately needs a powerplay QB. Hence I picked Seattle as the moving spot as that is the most likely destination since they are lacking some offence and mobility on the backend. Barrie is good on a powerplay and with some strong defensive dmen already in Seattle he can be sheltered on the defensive side being paired with either larsson or oleksiak. He can nicely fit on the 2nd pair there which will be best for barrie as limited ice time doesn't do him well.

Feb. 2, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.

#15

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

Barrie has no value and the world knows it.

Feb. 2, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.

#16

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

Posts: 23,653

Likes: 12,372

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

if they can get an actual roster dman and use him to move money they for sure will. The guy is the 8th best dman on the team on a good day. Kulack will be a big upgrade for the 3rd pair for cheap

Why trade a vet that everyone probably likes? Why trade the guy with the silver shin pads? You have enough cap space here to keep him so just keep him.

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.

#17

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Why trade a vet that everyone probably likes? Why trade the guy with the silver shin pads? You have enough cap space here to keep him so just keep him.

because money needs to be moved and at the end of the day, GM's should be making moves based on merit on the ice and their ability to play. Russel isn't an NHL dman anymore and kulack is a solid defensive presence that the oiler desperately need on the blueline

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.

#18

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Barrie has no value and the world knows it.

Any struggling powerplay looking for a t4RHD on the cheap that has a good track record as a PP QB will be interested in Barrie. He excels playing a certain role and in edmonton that role is already filled by bouchard so he is on an island. A RHD PP quarterback will always have value in this league

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.

#19

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

He isn’t a top four.

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.

#20

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

Posts: 23,653

Likes: 12,372

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

The Oilers would have $4.5M of cap space left with what you have here!.. lol

Also I'm not sure Kulak is really a defensive dman, pretty sure he's more of an offensive/mobile dman, not saying he couldn't help the Oilers but not sure he's really a defense first type of dman, could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th round pick. The Habs won't want to take back Russell either.

Da Haan is who the Oilers should target.

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:40 p.m.

#21

CD282

Joined: Mar. 2017

Posts: 24,044

Likes: 7,749

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

because money needs to be moved and at the end of the day, GM's should be making moves based on merit on the ice and their ability to play. Russel isn't an NHL dman anymore and kulack is a solid defensive presence that the oiler desperately need on the blueline

You got anything to back up this statement?

Cause his 59.26 GF% is telling me otherwise.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&team=EDM&pos=D&loc=B&toi=100&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.

#22

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: MisstheWhalers

De Haan just too expensive I think in terms of cap and trade cost. If there will be upgrades on d it will be on the cheap

Feb. 3, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.

#23

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

He isn’t a top four.

In Seattle he would be lol

Feb. 3, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.

#24

CMcAvoy73

Banned

Joined: Apr. 2021

Posts: 14,017

Likes: 4,585

Quoting: jjkhairaELTE99

In Seattle he would be lol

Probably wouldn’t. But why would they want him even if he was. They want to play low event hockey.

Feb. 3, 2022 at 4:15 p.m.

#25

jjkhairaELTE99

Thread Starter

Meme Enthusiast

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 1,080

Likes: 229

Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Probably wouldn’t. But why would they want him even if he was. They want to play low event hockey.

Cause they need someone that can man the powerplay and help generate offence from the blue line. Cant be completely shutdown and the Iles are a good example of that

Page 1 of 2 (4 more posts)

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM