The Chicago trade is a better offer than most leaf fans are willing to give, but I’m still not sure the hawks take it. It depends greatly how the team views Amirov and what is likely a very late first round pick. That is also assuming that they don’t get a better offer than this, which is again subjective.

Overall I’m still saying no, or at the very least holding out for a sweetener better than Engvall. Good effort though.

do you value Engvall or a 2nd round pick more?

What has Hagel done to deserve a price like this?

chicago is filled with 3rd liners so probably a second round pick is more valuable then engvall

2nd

God that's a lot for Hagel. Isles say no though. It not just isn't overcompensating its not enough to even think about.

Overcompensating from a roster building stand point, not in the trade value.

Hes a capable top 6 winger that is signed at 1.5 for the next 2 years and hes only 23.

This comment just seems like an overall lack of knowledge tbh. It’s an extreme overpay and Chicago takes it and runs quickly.

Amirov is one of the top prospects in hockey (ranked anywhere from 15-30 overall). Chicago would be nuts to not at least take him and flip him if they didn’t like him. Engvall is extremely underrated. A great defensive player and has great speed. He’s been a key player this year and he’s still a RFA.

The reported price for Hagel - being a 1st and a top prospect - has been reportedly laughed at and teams are extremely cautious to meet that ask. It’s likely won’t be the case. It’ll be a 1st and a B prospect or lower. So this deal Chicago gets an A- prospect, 1st round pick and a NHL roster player… they take it and run.

Like Hagel

You don't watch Hagel, do you?

Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Kyle Davidson would take that. I'd love to see Amirov in a Hawks jersey.

serevalli has said that teams have been getting close to the asking price of hagel so i dont think teams are laughing remember coleman got a 1st and foote and hagel is younger better contract RFA controlled and better then coleman was

This comment seems like someone who is pulling stuff out of their a** to sound smart. I said it was a good offer and that it depends on how chicago views Amirov and what is slated to be the 27th pick in the draft assuming the leafs don’t advance far into the playoffs. Tons of other teams could put together offers that are similar or higher quality than this by virtue of having an earlier pick in the draft or by including a prospect that the hawks like more than Amirov.

I’ve not seen any reports of teams laughing at the hawks asking price, and getting a prospect in a trade with the only intention of flipping him is nonsense. As for Engvall and your glowing evaluation of his game… we don’t need him we already have a ton of players in his mold.

If the hawks move Hagel it will only be because a team blows us out of the water with an offer, we have him under team control for 3 years at an extremely affordable hit before he becomes an RFA again. There’s no need to move him for anything less than a spectacular return.

He had 10 more points than Engvall while playing in the top 6 of a deeply inferior team. Not saying Engvall is better but a 23 year old being good on a bad team with a paltry 27 points doesn't strike me as someone worth 2 1st and then some

He’s having a breakout season

23 and only 27 points. Let's perhaps temper our praise here. Amirov is going to at the very least be this and more than him is very silly

He’s scored just as many points this season in fewer games then last season that’s pretty good

And? It's still 27 points in 46 games as a 23 year old. It's not like he's a 19 year old scoring at a point per game. We are talking about a player entering his prime with 27 points. Hardly what you call a blue chipper. He's another Bunting, a decent player but what are we getting here? Is he better than Kerfoot? Well he has less points in better usage since Kerfoot doesn't get any PP time. Would anyone give up a former 1st round pick, a first and then some for Kerfoot?

Kerfoot is one of my favourite players but he is 26, signed at 2 million more per year, and has scored 5 less goals. Kerfoot has 22 assists and 12 of them are secondary, he is an excellent complimentary player on that line but he is also very clearly mooching. Hagel might be on pace for 48 points but he also on pace for 25 goals.

Even if you think they are the same, Hagel saves you 2 million and gets you an extra year.

Sure, but does that make him worth a 1st, a highly regarded former 1st rounder, and a 2nd? Is Kerfoot worth that? I would be shocked if anyone gave Kerfoot that much value but he's having a better season than Hagel. And they are the same size as well. So it's not like we are getting a bigger player. It's just excessive