They do. Potential trade partners for them are the capitals. We will give you Carlson and Sammy. Perfect for a tank.

Yeah I’ve got a feeling Foxy and Shesty might be good enough to thwart the plans to get a franchise center. Could be moved in said scenario. I haven’t played chel in a while, might need to test this scenario out.

Man you just wanna forever be in a rebuild huh?

My acgm was deleted. Made a trade to get them. 🤷‍♂️

No I just think they fundamentally screwed up the rebuild by not drafting a franchise centermen, which you can’t win without. Bruins had Bergeron, Tampa has Point, Chicago had Toews, Pens had Crosby, LA had Kopitar, Blues had O’Reilly, Caps had Backstrom. Rangers don’t have that. Mika is solid, but not on the echelon of put your team on their back to win a cup. They’ll be mediocre at best the next decade and never be good enough to win a cup just like the 2010’s.

Gotcha.

Seriously would there be a fair trade to get them

Probably not from a single team, unless there were high quality prospects coming the other way. Crazy part is any trade with them would be a likely loss because they both have been near the top of the league at their respective positions. And prospects no matter how good are kinda a toss up versus knowing you’ve got a number one d man and goalie at 24 and 26.

The concept of trading a franchise G at the age of 25 who clearly stands out as the top guy in the league.. the concept of trading a top 3 puck moving PP defence man who we have literally been missing since Leetch and been making terrible attempts to find that… These 2 guys are more valuable to the rebuild and compete than the “franchise C” you’re looking for. Take 1 look at how bad EDM has been for nearly a decade with the best player in the world, the best franchise C you could ask for.. moving either Shesty or Fox would be the BIGGEST mistake a GM could ever make.

You can win if you have depth at the position. 2011 Bergeron wasn't even the best center on his team. O'Reilly had a great year but I'd hardly call him a franchise centerman. You just need a helper for mika, you have elite players in other positions.

Point = 3rd round pick
Bergeron, Backstrom, and O'Reilly = 2nd round picks
You can get those guys later in the draft too but I think you're not giving enough credit to zibanejad. I'd much rather have zibanejad than O’Reilly as my 1C.

Yeah I’d rather a cup then the better player.

There is little to no scoring 5 on 5. If the top guys aren’t scoring the Rangers are scoring nothing. They only look so good cause of Igor. It’s literally Lundqvist 2.0

Well guess what, teams don’t win without that go to centerman. Mika isn’t gonna be good enough to get it done.

Yeah but you have depth and prospects and cap so you can be patient and fill the holes. Sure its the goalie doing the heavy lifting but this team is just getting started.

Little harsh take on the rebuild there...Mika might not be Bergeron or Crosby...but he should still be more than adequate to C the 1st or 2nd line on any Cup contender. And as far as the fruits of the rebuild, other than LaF and Kakko- 2 guys who still haven't come into their own yet- the prospect pool is stacked with quality talent...guys who should be able to be good NHL players. The big question now is how Drury manages this "embarrassment of riches"...because they all wont fit on NYR. Does he "waste" some of these prospects on rentals? or does he move some for a C as mentioned in this thread? That's actually a tough trade to make....TBL held tightly onto Pointe. COL has held tightly to Newhook...and I'm sure the same could be said about Halloway, Perfetti, Turcotte, and others. 1C's- the type discussed in this thread usually need to be drafted and developed. NYR do have the capital to obtain the pick(s) necessary to draft these type players...and given the age of Fox, Shesty, LaF, Kakko, and several others, they do have the TIME...the only question is if Drury has the stomach.

That’s my entire point. There’s no reason to rush and make stupid big trades for the sake of making trades. The fact that no one shows any patience is ridiculous.

The rebuild died and was a waste of time the second they signed Panarin and traded for Trouba. They’ll be stuck in a teetering position of should we go for it or wait cause those guys are older and the rest of the team is so young. They screwed the entire thing up and now we’re gonna have to watch it all crumble.

backstom was drafted 4th overall between

Thank you.

The biggest issue we have is 2C and 3C. They can’t win faceoffs which means we are always play defensively to start those shifts and that’s unacceptable. If Chytil and Strome could win 10% more of the time which isn’t asking a lot. The GF & GA 5v5 would take a nice swing in the right direction. This has nothing to do with Zibby, it’s the supporting cast around him and more so straight down the middle that’s the issue. Zibby has had multiple 6 point games for us and aside from that a 5 goal night.. he has shown that he can take the team and put them on his shoulders. Strome and Chytil aren’t Capable of that but that’s ok, we need them to be above 50% on FOW. There’s too much skill on this team that is being forced to ply defensively instead of offensively.. McDavid and Matthews aren’t winning cups.. don’t worry about the 1C. Worry about stats that equates to real differences on a scoresheet

I see it that they need a 2C on an ELC. They have that and move Barron to 3C and Goodrow to 4C and this team would be pretty good. Only problem is where we are getting that from.

We drafted 2 C in the 3rd round last year, I’m sure we will focus on C this draft and we expected Henriksson to be more than he has been. Laf is still the best choice long term from the draft. Stutzle and Byfield haven’t been just lighting it up and it’s not like they have been standing out playing C. At the end of the day they drafted right and looking at Othmann this year I’m not sure they passed up a C Thant’s better than Othmann for the future or as an asset. All those teams you mentioned winning a cup typically had good C depth. Crosby/Malkin/Staal as an example Point/Stamkos/cirelli as another. If Barron can keep it up then great, Goodrow is solid on the dot, Zibby also. We could really use another guy to step into a 2C role but that’s the final piece really. Trade or sign and it’s done

I hope Korczak is that for us. I see him as Brayden Point lite.

Agreed. I hope he works out.

I can see it being this next season

Kreids/Zibby/Laf
Bread/Korc/Kakko
Goodrow/Barron/Othmann
Hunt/Rooney/Reaves