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Created by: Kartana

Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 19, 2022

Published: Mar. 19, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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An idea for Carolina to get a defenseman, like they are rumored to want, and one that fits what they usually like. From my understanding Crouse fits a need. With Florida and Tampa Bay gearing up I'm curious to know if Canes' fans feel the need to do something at the TDL. Even if Ekblad's injury is short term from the looks of it, this is a chance to maybe get ahead.

Trade breakdown is Chychrun for Jarvis, Morrow and 1st. That may seem rich to some. I don't think it is, but to help ease that it is a 2nd and Rees for Crouse, instead of a 1st +. Then a 6th to offset the loss of the 1st. Cole to save some cap and help the value.

Feel free to give some thoughts to it. I wouldn't mind adding some picks from Arizona if that's necessary.

Trades

ARI

Cole, Ian
Jarvis, Seth
Morrow, Scott [Reserve List]
Rees, Jamieson
2022 6th round pick (CAR)
2023 1st round pick (CAR)
2024 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Buyouts

Michael Grabner: $1,258,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
Darcy Kuemper: $1,000,000 (22.22%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$73,155,285	$196,951	$3,030,000	$8,344,715

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Eriksson, Loui $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Schmaltz, Nick $5,850,000$5,850,000 RW, C UFA - 5	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Ritchie, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($2,150,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 1	Keller, Clayton $7,150,000$7,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 7
	Nash, Riley $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Fischer, Christian $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Maccelli, Matias $853,333$853,333 ($82,500$82K) LW RFA - 2	Boyd, Travis $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Jarvis, Seth $894,167$894,167 ($500,000$500K) RW RFA - 3
Galchenyuk, Alex $750,000$750,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Strålman, Anton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vejmelka, Karel $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) G UFA - 1
Moser, J.J. $886,667$886,667 ($82,500$82K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Mayo, Dysin $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1	Wedgewood, Scott $825,000$825,000 G UFA - 1
Kolyachonok, Vladislav $789,167$789,167 ($132,500$132K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Cole, Ian $2,900,000$2,900,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Dineen, Cam $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Capobianco, Kyle $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Ladd, Andrew $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2
	Jaskin, Dmitrij $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 1
	Larsson, Johan $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 1
	Timmins, Conor $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 2
	O'Brien, Liam $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Mar. 19, 2022 at 7:37 a.m.

TampaBayLightning22

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Probably one of the better Jackob Chychrun trades we've seen on here.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 7:57 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Might be a bit of an underpay, Jarvis + 1st + Morrow is a pretty fair return for Chychrun, I don't think a 2nd and Reese get's Crouse though.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 8:25 a.m.

evelutions2

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Considering how highly valued Jarvis and Morrow are to the Canes, I don’t really see this happening. Canes would be willing to move other prospects instead of Jarvis and Morrow, like maybe Heimosalmi and Koivunen/Gunler, and add in Ponomarev and Suzuki and the Canes would be closer to agreeing. But as far as the Canes are concerned, Jarvis and Morrow are untouchable.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:11 a.m.

QualityTrades1

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I mean when you’re talking about Chychrun I can definitely see how you could view this as fair but Jarvis is becoming a staple of a winning lineup and he’s cheap right now. You can’t find these guys available for teams on the hunt for a cup.

So while Chychrun would be nice, and maybe some people see this trade as fair, it just won’t happen IMO

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22

Probably one of the better Jackob Chychrun trades we've seen on here.

Thanks!

Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Might be a bit of an underpay, Jarvis + 1st + Morrow is a pretty fair return for Chychrun, I don't think a 2nd and Reese get's Crouse though.

Yeah, I think so too, but it's quite the haul and at some point we can't ask for too many assets or we're never trading Chychrun. I don't want to include Crouse since we're "losing" a 1st, but I think it helps offset the loss of Jarvis for Carolina.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:34 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

I understand that, thanks for the info. That's also one of the reasons I included Crouse, because adding him should make it a little easier losing Jarvis.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.

Kartana

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Quoting: evelutions2

Thanks for the insight. I see why you and the Canes wouldn't want to lose them, but you have to give to get, especially for a player like Chychrun. I can't see it happening if those aren't a part of the deal. In the end that's probably why this isn't happening, though.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.

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Quoting: Kartana

Personally I think if both are sold they are moved separately. I feel like Kessel will be moved with Chychrun and they keep Crouse

Mar. 19, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.

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I think this is probably a fair ask but I can’t see canes moving Jarvis and to a lesser extent morrow. Jarvis is on a cheap contract and has fit into the lineup excellently. Morrow the canes are really high on morrow as well, but he could be moved. I would move pretty much any prospect other than Jarvis but that may not be enough from a coyotes perspective

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 10:38 a.m.

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Necas probably more available than Jarvis. Really doubt the Canes move Morrow or Jarvis.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.

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I don't do that if I am the Canes

Mar. 19, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.

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Jarvis is out of the question, as is Morrow. I'd imagine you're more likely to get Necas and Heimosalmi. Crouse is an extra. Carolina don't need him, he's not going to get major playing time in Raleigh as it is. Arizona would also need to swallow the contract of Gardiner so Martinook could go onto LTIR and they become cap compliant without giving up more roster pieces than they have to. I also think the value here is ridiculously overpriced, especially considering Chychrun can't play right now. He's hurt. He can't slot into the lineup Sunday against the Rangers or Tuesday against Tampa. Subtracting all this for someone who won't be there to help for at least another 10 days? No thanks.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: Caniac555

Necas probably more available than Jarvis. Really doubt the Canes move Morrow or Jarvis.

That surprises me. I'd much rather have Necas if possible, but figured he'd be the absolute no go.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Caniac2000

I'd much rather have Necas so I don't mind switching him with Jarvis. The value is favoring the Canes. That's just what the market dictates. The value of Chychrun is in the fact that he has 4 more years left on his contract. If he misses 3 games is a minor concern and doesn't affect his trade value. I also wouldn't mind taking Gardiner instead of Cole if it means Necas, Morrow and 1st.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Personally I think if both are sold they are moved separately. I feel like Kessel will be moved with Chychrun and they keep Crouse

I agree 100%. For this purpose I just think Crouse makes more sense. But it's just me messing around and having some fun.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.

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Quoting: Kartana

If you think this value favors Carolina, look at the Canes a little closer.

Morrow is an instant no too. He's developing at a rate similar to Cale Makar did at UMass. No one is saying he'll be as good as Makar, but no one is saying he's not going to be as good as Makar... so he's very much out of the question unless it's like... Morrow and a 2nd. You won't get any other major pieces if Morrow is going back. He's WAY too valuable to Carolina.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.

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It comes down to age and control…Jarvis is multiple years behind Necas in age progress and team control via RFA but honestly they are basically close on the ice right now.

Neither is likely, but if Chychrun is the return…Necas makes more sense for both sides.

Quoting: Kartana

That surprises me. I'd much rather have Necas if possible, but figured he'd be the absolute no go.

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Caniac555

Yeah, in the end this is just fun and games, but if there was even a remote chance of getting Necas for Chychrun I'd jump on it immediately.

Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.

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Kartana

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Quoting: Caniac2000

I did when making it and figured if I should add anything more from Carolina, but decided to compromise. I also like Morrow and think he is very likely he becomes a top 4 guy, but comparing him to Makar is farfetched. He is one of the best in a long time.

Mar. 20, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.

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You are thinking about this as Morrow today vs Makar today…which is incorrect. You need to think about it as Makar as a freshman at UMass vs Morrow as a freshman at UMass (now). They are on similar projected curves. What would it look like if the Avs had sold Makar in his draft +1 year?

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