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NYR - CHI Idea

Created by: EnglishFitzPercy
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 19, 2022
Published: Mar. 19, 2022
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
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I'd love to hear NYR and Chicago fans opinion on this.

Looks like Chicago is going full rebuild. While Debrincat should still be elite when the Hawks compete again, they will likely be bad for the next 3-4 years which are his prime years.

Two underachieving top prospects in NYR, but it's still so early and they are still full of potential. However adding a 40 goals scorer who plays RW would be massive for NYR in my opinion.

I honestly don't know what the correct value is, I just want to hear your thoughts. NYR would certainly prefer to trade Kakko while the Hawks would prefer Laf.
Trades
NYR
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Anthony Deangelo: $383,334
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,498,927$0$4,450,000$1,001,073
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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DeBrincat, Alex
$6,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Strome, Ryan
$4,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Goodrow, Barclay
$3,641,667
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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Chytil, Filip
$2,300,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Hunt, Dryden
$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Vatrano, Frank
$2,533,333
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Reaves, Ryan
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Brodzinski, Jonny
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
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Gauthier, Julien
$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
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Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Shesterkin, Igor
$5,666,667
G
UFA - 4
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Nemeth, Patrik
$2,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,425,000
G
UFA - 1
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Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Schneider, Braden
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
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Hájek, Libor
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Blais, Samuel
$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
C
UFA - 1

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Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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I think this is a no brainer for the Rangers.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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CHI says no. NYR can’t afford to do this either. We need the cheap bridge deals with the cap
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Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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As a Hawks fan, I don't think that's enough of a return considering what they just got for Hagel. Saw an earlier tweet that the Hawks must be "wowed" to trade Debrincat and this doesn't "wow" me. Maybe take out the 2022 draft pick (heard that Davidson isn't interested in 2022 draft choices as he's revamping the scouting staff to get ready for 2023), and replace it with the Rangers 2023 and 2024 first rounders, plus maybe a second in either year and it's possible.
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Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
CHI says no. NYR can’t afford to do this either. We need the cheap bridge deals with the cap


Do they though? You certainly know NY's situation better than I do, but looking at it I see that they have 67M committed next year with a fairly full roster (they'll need a 2C which could be Strome or someone else). Unless Laf absolutely breaks out next year, you have to think that he'll get a 2-3 years cheap bridge for his second contract.

That leaves them money for a competent backup. I could be missing something, but I feel like it works for NY for the next 2-4 years at least.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachQ
As a Hawks fan, I don't think that's enough of a return considering what they just got for Hagel. Saw an earlier tweet that the Hawks must be "wowed" to trade Debrincat and this doesn't "wow" me. Maybe take out the 2022 draft pick (heard that Davidson isn't interested in 2022 draft choices as he's revamping the scouting staff to get ready for 2023), and replace it with the Rangers 2023 and 2024 first rounders, plus maybe a second in either year and it's possible.


Saw that tweet as well and I also didn't feel like this was a wow offer, but I feel like there clearly is a deal to be made with these teams to jumpstart Chicago's rebuild and help the Rangers cup aspirations.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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This isn't even close for Debrincat. Kakko is going to be a career 3rd liner. Debrincat costs more than kane
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Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Not even close. Yes Kaapo has upside and shows flashes, but he has also had 3 years in the NHL with very little to show for it. I think NYR fans way over value guys like him and Laf. Gonna take a bunch more for the NYR's to pull off a Cat trade.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
CHI says no. NYR can’t afford to do this either. We need the cheap bridge deals with the cap


It can be done, it would just require some creativity. Gotta figure the 2m contract Kakko gets and the 5-6m contract that Strome gets, pay for DeBrincat.
Rangers could then go after Jack McBain with a 2nd round pick, then you have your ELC cost controlled center for 2 years.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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It can be done, it would just require some creativity. Gotta figure the 2m contract Kakko gets and the 5-6m contract that Strome gets, pay for DeBrincat.
Rangers could then go after Jack McBain with a 2nd round pick, then you have your ELC cost controlled center for 2 years.


Ya, I’m sure Lundkvist needs to be added to this deal in order to make it happen. I’d like to see them get Mcbain too. Honestly don’t think Strome is here next season regardless.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: aecliptic
It can be done, it would just require some creativity. Gotta figure the 2m contract Kakko gets and the 5-6m contract that Strome gets, pay for DeBrincat.
Rangers could then go after Jack McBain with a 2nd round pick, then you have your ELC cost controlled center for 2 years.


His current deal expires in two years and likely gonna have to pay 10M for him
Mar. 19, 2022 at 1:04 p.m.
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Ya, I’m sure Lundkvist needs to be added to this deal in order to make it happen. I’d like to see them get Mcbain too. Honestly don’t think Strome is here next season regardless.


I dont think Strome comes back either. He hasnt really instilled much confidence for the long haul after the Rangers came back from the break. Hes been very pedestrian, granted, its been a revolving door of 4th liners and AHLers playing with Strome and Panarin.

However, if we could coax McBain to come here it saves us like 5m in cap space that we would have used on Strome to sign someone else, like Rakell. However, my fear with McBain is if he doesnt get what he wants, he will sit or walk. Guys who make demands like he does make me apprehensive about their loyalty to an organization.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 1:05 p.m.
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His current deal expires in two years and likely gonna have to pay 10M for him


In 2 years, we trade Trouba, get back 8m, hopefully the cap takes a small bumps, and boom, you got your money to resign him.
Mar. 19, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
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Ya, I’m sure Lundkvist needs to be added to this deal in order to make it happen. I’d like to see them get Mcbain too. Honestly don’t think Strome is here next season regardless.


braden schneider needs to be added to this **** proposal too
Mar. 19, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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braden schneider needs to be added to this **** proposal too


So does Shesty
 
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