Tanks and okay. I thought I one point it was that if the values were equal, the first tiebreaker would be years and then Waiver Order, but thanks for the clarification.

True, good point. Although when we're talking about top UFAs, most will go to their home team, if not then Vegas. Most likely. With that, just like in this years FA. Gagner, MDZ and Nilsson all wounded up in league-worst Vancouver. Point being, when it comes to the other UFAs, sure they'd love to win, but I think they'd play anywhere TBH. Doing the waiver order the way it is also helps those "weaker" teams get somewhat stronger perhaps? Just giving another perspective out there but I agree with you Marco

Yes very true but then again look at Vancouver IRL and in the GM game. Very different situations. Some of those bad teams IRL have significantly improved their team in the GM game. Not sure why we would need to give them an advantage if that's the case.

Also as for debate on the subject i just realized there was a thread created for this already so Im heading down there. Sorry, forgot this was the BOG thread.

So Vegas essentially has the secondary rights to all players?

If you want to put it that way, yes. Should be noted that Vegas won't be able to pick up all FAs tho. They can only have 50 roster spots, several of which used, and if they get a player they don't own the rights to, they can't move them till January. Something to think about....

I noticed someone mention somewhere that we aren't using the 50 roster spots rule...

That would be me.
Something that was discussed a while back that Booth may not have been here for or aware of?

Probably. I joined the game a month or so late, perhaps that's why. Or maybe it's my bad memory. I'll blame both

Okay, as long as something didn't change that I missed. I would have felt bad.

Haha naw you're good one way or another

So i guess Enstrom is mine now?

I believe so... I'll look back through this thread to make sure there weren't any claims we missed

No other teams made a claim here on the BOG thread, so Tobias Enstrom is yours Marco

If I remember correctly since you were the only team to put in a waiver claim on Enstrom you keep your spot in the waiver line as well.

BOG, I've finally been forced to file a report against Math. The report is attached here for convenience:

Math has not received any infractions to date. And as this involves bolts and I, it will be up to the 5 of you to reach a verdict. I think majority of 3 should be enough in this instance

1-0 in favor of a level one infraction for Math. If GMs explicitly state that they do not want to make deals with you and you keep coming back that is the definition of trolling. Every GM has the right to cut ties even though it is not an encouraged method of business.

1-1... stupid to cut ties really. It's a online game for petes sake. Math probably just wants to make his team better... by making offers that he sees fair. It's not that hard to just decline a trade or make a counter to what you see fit. And if you aren't interested in a player he offer just state it

Sorry to interrupt, but that's not true as it was intended (you only keep your spot in free agency tiebreakers if noone evokes waiver priority and you are first in line, any other time you "claim" a player, you move to the back of the line). That's the cost of getting a player for free. Otherwise he could have picked up 3 or 4 players and still kept his waiver priority. I only mention it because this is going to come up again with any regular course buyouts and regular season waivers. If you want to say he keeps his priority due to special circumstances with Enstrom, that's fine, but it shouldn't be something that is repeatable or apply to future waiver claims.
Claiming a player always equals back of the line, even if you are the only team involved.

Not my place to say but I'll add just for perspective if you want it, you can simply ignore him also. I don't think he's doing it to be malicious.

Wait so waiver claims for buyouts affect you position in free agency waiver order?

If 2 players make a claim for the same player, then whoever had the best draft order gets the player, then moves to the end of the waiver list. This does not affect Free Agency

Oh ok. Thats fine.

Vote to place Math on Stage 1 of Infraction system: 1-1
- Matt in favour
- Jmac opposed
- Booth and bolts disqualified from voting
- Waiting on Zach, Turner and JT Miller

When will free agency start?
Also am I right that players like Spencer Foo, Curtis Valk and Philip Holm will be included in free agency?
Did we ever decide whether players that were drafted IRL but not in the GM Game will be included in free agency?

1) TBD
2) Yes. You will be allowed to bid on them in FA
3) You may also bid on those players