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lets take a jab at the dubois trade

Created by: zk97
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 29, 2022
Published: Apr. 29, 2022
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it has to be somewhat close to the eichel package imo
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  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
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I'd have a hard time to let go from Ghule... but I get it.

At the same time - If we get Shane Wright... do we really need PLD?

I rather have Suzuki and Wright at center + Ghule as our top LHD with Romanov and Harris.

At the same time, if we pick third... we can select Nemec without any afterthought with PLD and Suzuki down the middle.
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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Rather just keep Dvorak and the assets that almost ensure a better shot at Bedard in 2023 then upgrade to PLD
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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I think Guhle is going to be a monster; it would be tough to trade him.

I know that he (Dubois) is a fracophone and that being fracophone is legit important to the community, organization and fan base (totally respect this), but I just see them having different needs. Dubois is obviously talented, but he does come with baggage and he isn't a right-shot defenseman. Finally: Dvorak did not have that bad of a season, and was dynimite in the face-off circle. While he's not a second line center, he would make a great third-line option; I would wait and see what happens at the draft lottery before deciding on Dubois. (that's just my opinion, though).
Apr. 29, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
I'd have a hard time to let go from Ghule... but I get it.

At the same time - If we get Shane Wright... do we really need PLD?

I rather have Suzuki and Wright at center + Ghule as our top LHD with Romanov and Harris.

At the same time, if we pick third... we can select Nemec without any afterthought with PLD and Suzuki down the middle.
entirely agree here. if we get wright, don't do the dubois trade. thats not even a question to me. best case scenario tho imo is select nemec at 3, trade for dubois, and be set. that would make for a nice future

XXX - Suzuki - Caufield
Dvorak - Dubois - Anderson
Heineman - Poehling - Ylonen
Roy - Evans - Farrell
(Mysak, RHP, RPitlick, Kidney, Kapanen, Farrell, Smilanic)

Romanov - Nemec
Guhle - Barron
Norlinder - Harris
(Fairbrother, Xhekaj, Brook, Mailloux)

Quoting: Subbanator7667
Rather just keep Dvorak and the assets that almost ensure a better shot at Bedard in 2023 then upgrade to PLD
Question becomes who's gonna fall off in the Atlantic. TBL, TOR, BOS, FLA are the playoff teams this season. Tampa is losing assets fast, Boston's guys are getting older and older. Maybe if the roster has its holes filled we could be a legit contender. I doubt MTL finishes last AGAIN honestly, the talent is there.

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I think Guhle is going to be a monster; it would be tough to trade him.

I know that he (Dubois) is a fracophone and that being fracophone is legit important to the community, organization and fan base (totally respect this), but I just see them having different needs. Dubois is obviously talented, but he does come with baggage and he isn't a right-shot defenseman. Finally: Dvorak did not have that bad of a season, and was dynimite in the face-off circle. While he's not a second line center, he would make a great third-line option; I would wait and see what happens at the draft lottery before deciding on Dubois. (that's just my opinion, though).

The whole purpose of moving Dvorak is to make him somewhat equal to Tuch in the Eichel trade (but worse obviously, because Eichel >> Dubois), and Guhle as Krebs. But if you don't want to move Dvorak i dont know who else you move
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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entirely agree here. if we get wright, don't do the dubois trade. thats not even a question to me. best case scenario tho imo is select nemec at 3, trade for dubois, and be set. that would make for a nice future

XXX - Suzuki - Caufield
Dvorak - Dubois - Anderson
Heineman - Poehling - Ylonen
Roy - Evans - Farrell
(Mysak, RHP, RPitlick, Kidney, Kapanen, Farrell, Smilanic)

Romanov - Nemec
Guhle - Barron
Norlinder - Harris
(Fairbrother, Xhekaj, Brook, Mailloux)

Question becomes who's gonna fall off in the Atlantic. TBL, TOR, BOS, FLA are the playoff teams this season. Tampa is losing assets fast, Boston's guys are getting older and older. Maybe if the roster has its holes filled we could be a legit contender. I doubt MTL finishes last AGAIN honestly, the talent is there.


The whole purpose of moving Dvorak is to make him somewhat equal to Tuch in the Eichel trade (but worse obviously, because Eichel >> Dubois), and Guhle as Krebs. But if you don't want to move Dvorak i dont know who else you move


Totally agree. I have no issue moving Dvorak: I was just illustrating that acquiring Dubois is not necessariy a necessity, that's all. smile
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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The Jets aren't moving Dubois, but if they were an average 3C, a decent but unneeded LD as well as a late first and second aren't close to getting it done.
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
XXX - Suzuki - Caufield
Dvorak - Dubois - Anderson
Heineman - Poehling - Ylonen
Roy - Evans - Farrell
(Mysak, RHP, RPitlick, Kidney, Kapanen, Farrell, Smilanic)

Romanov - Nemec
Guhle - Barron
Norlinder - Harris
(Fairbrother, Xhekaj, Brook, Mailloux)


Farrell listed twice. And don’t forget Blake Biondi

They could move Mailloux or Harris too if they end up with Nemec and wanted to keep Guhle.
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Apr. 29, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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Farrell listed twice. And don’t forget Blake Biondi

They could move Mailloux or Harris too if they end up with Nemec and wanted to keep Guhle.


i dunno what they do with mailloux considering what he's done, and i dont really want to move harris especially since hughes got him to sign
Apr. 29, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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Jets don't really need LHD but getting Guhle would be pretty awesome.
Apr. 29, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.
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Everyone wants to trade Dvorak... 15 points in his last 18 games... 56.6 faceoff percentage. He's looking like he's really coming into his own under MSL. Give him another year before you give up on him. He might surprise you.
 
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