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Avs Next Year Simple and Effective Offseason

Created by: jassan28
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2022
Published: May 10, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,475,000
2$1,886,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$5,150,000
1$800,000
2$3,750,000
2$1,000,000
2$4,500,000
3$5,370,000
Trades
COL
  1. Brown, Connor ($1,800,000 retained)
OTT
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. Foudy, Jean-Luc
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,958,500$25,000$3,562,500$541,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,370,000$5,370,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,475,000$3,475,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,886,000$1,886,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,150,000$5,150,000
G
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2

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May 10, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
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Can’t see Ottawa saying yes
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May 10, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.
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i think ottawa passes.

bowers might be a 3c in the ahl.
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May 10, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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This is solid but Ottawa passes on the Brown trade imo and Bowers isnt rlly good enough for 3rd line center duty
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May 10, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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Ottawa passes.

Andrew Copp had 100 P in 174 GP (0.57 PPG, 47 pts in 82 gp) in the three years prior to being traded to New York as a post-deadline rental for Barron, a cond. 2nd that can become a 1st and another 2nd. Connor Brown has 117 P in 191 GP (0.61 PPG, 50 pts in 82 gp) in the last three years with Ottawa. He has a full year on his deal at $3.6M (or $1.8M if they retain 50% like here).

If this were to happen in the offseason, it'll take more than this. An offseason trade would give a full year of Brown, whereas only a couple months of Copp got a similarish quality prospect and better picks. Simply, Compher doesn't hold as much value to the Sens as he's being given here. They have too many of him.

It's hard because Colorado doesn't have many picks, but I imagine any trade for Brown would look something like Copp's but better as he's a better player and he'd have more time on his deal. The Sens probably expect a 1st in there, along with another decent pick (2nd or 3rd) and a decent prospect (like Barron was/is).
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May 10, 2022 at 5:26 p.m.
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Bowers has never played an NHL game. Definitely can’t be 3C.

Helm has been lackluster in Colorado. Probably better to experiment with someone else.

NAK is likely cheaper than that, most of the UFAs are probably a bit more expensive.

I haven’t been blown away by Manson, I’d rather pick up some cheap depth D and bolster the middle 6 forwards more.
May 10, 2022 at 5:36 p.m.
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Im gunna assume its a mistake youve placed Brown ahead of Rantanen in the lineup.
as for the deal, doesnt make sense for either team. Comphers been steady and COLs prospect pool is thin, why move Foudy and two 3rd rd picks for a one year rental?
May 10, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Too much quantity, not enough quality for Ottawa.

Try again.
May 10, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Claebom
Ottawa passes.

Andrew Copp had 100 P in 174 GP (0.57 PPG, 47 pts in 82 gp) in the three years prior to being traded to New York as a post-deadline rental for Barron, a cond. 2nd that can become a 1st and another 2nd. Connor Brown has 117 P in 191 GP (0.61 PPG, 50 pts in 82 gp) in the last three years with Ottawa. He has a full year on his deal at $3.6M (or $1.8M if they retain 50% like here).

If this were to happen in the offseason, it'll take more than this. An offseason trade would give a full year of Brown, whereas only a couple months of Copp got a similarish quality prospect and better picks. Simply, Compher doesn't hold as much value to the Sens as he's being given here. They have too many of him.

It's hard because Colorado doesn't have many picks, but I imagine any trade for Brown would look something like Copp's but better as he's a better player and he'd have more time on his deal. The Sens probably expect a 1st in there, along with another decent pick (2nd or 3rd) and a decent prospect (like Barron was/is).


usually 1 year rentals are more expensive at the deadline than at the season stars. (if you look at past years exemples it becomes clear). so keeping him at until the deadline is probably what the sens should do. i dont necessarwly expect him to get more than copp, but he might if he gets another solid good season.
May 10, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Im gunna assume its a mistake youve placed Brown ahead of Rantanen in the lineup.
as for the deal, doesnt make sense for either team. Comphers been steady and COLs prospect pool is thin, why move Foudy and two 3rd rd picks for a one year rental?


answer : colorado wants to win.
May 10, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: drambui
answer : colorado wants to win.


I’m sorry but the “upgrade” to Brown from Compher isn’t worth Foudy + two 3rds. Nor does having Brown over Compher make the difference between them winning or losing lol
May 10, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
I’m sorry but the “upgrade” to Brown from Compher isn’t worth Foudy + two 3rds. Nor does having Brown over Compher make the difference between them winning or losing lol


i mean you might not like it , but you also did not predict the price sakic would pay for lekhnoen. maybe i shoukd be higher on foudy but im not? anyway, i still feel this 100% a move a contender should consider, and usually contender's fan are mostly disppointed by the price they have to pay to get a player at the deadline.
May 10, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: drambui
i mean you might not like it , but you also did not predict the price sakic would pay for lekhnoen. maybe i shoukd be higher on foudy but im not? anyway, i still feel this 100% a move a contender should consider, and usually contender's fan are mostly disppointed by the price they have to pay to get a player at the deadline.


You are off your rocker to think that Foudy and two 3rds is what separates Brown from Compher (essentially three 3rd rd picks?) lol

You are even more delusional if you think “upgrading” from Compher to Brown would make any noticeable improvement (enough to pay that ridiculous asking price). Browns playoff numbers blow your mind? 5 pts?
May 10, 2022 at 9:54 p.m.
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You are off your rocker to think that Foudy and two 3rds is what separates Brown from Compher (essentially three 3rd rd picks?) lol

You are even more delusional if you think “upgrading” from Compher to Brown would make any noticeable improvement (enough to pay that ridiculous asking price).


i'm pretty sure of you ask most fanbase they would rather have brown than compher. now i dont think why you think 3 3rd are worth so much...
May 10, 2022 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: drambui
i'm pretty sure of you ask most fanbase they would rather have brown than compher. now i dont think why you think 3 3rd are worth so much...


And with that statement, I know without a doubt, you aren’t knowledgeable enough to be having this argument with me XD

“I don’t know why you think 3 3rds are worth so much…” lol
May 10, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
And with that statement, I know without a doubt, you aren’t knowledgeable enough to be having this argument with me XD

“I don’t know why you think 3 3rds are worth so much…” lol


i mean, i are not really providing arguments... you are just saying you do not agree with me and i got that part. what do you think you can get in a trade for 3 third round pick?
May 11, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.
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Ottawa needs to extend Brown.

If they can't, they have to target more quality, less quantity
 
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