don't see them trading for any less than what they did to get him

I wouldn’t ask a Canadians fan for their opinion. Half of them think Petry is worth the second pick.

So a first and a third?

The WPG 1st for Dvorak + CGY 1st

Basically a late first and a second

I misread that at first. Jets say no.

Precisely, because he's not worth a top15 that's for sure, but for just a late 1st they'd prob keep him as he's a pretty darn good face-off guy. So the extra 2nd rounder wld prob push it over the top

Most here are more than reasonable.
Maybe one person had Lehkonen go for more than the TDL return.
Most here had Chiarot going for less.
A lot had Kulak going for a 2nd and many just were flamed. I offered a 3rd for Kulak and I'll tell you I underestimated every Habs player return and I guarantee you that Petry will go for a 1st at the least!
This is the same sort ofdiscussion I had about Lehkonen for over the last year as ppl come in with their bias and dont look at the facts. Many said Lehky had no chance of getting a 2nd rounder in return when he was a developed 2nd rounder with team control. I guaranteed at least a 1st for Lehky, Petry is a RHD top 4 with very few available through trade (Dumba) or free agency (Justin Schultz). Scarcity alone demands a 1st.

Not even sure they get the second rn

Seems like a terrible idea for the team moving the first

Petry is not going for the 2nd OA thats laughable. A first round pick in a weak draft. Easily. This draft from 10 to 50 is all over the map. They have 10 picks in the first 4 rounds this 2022 draft.

You have to be completely biased to not see the Habs moving up at their home draft.

As was the case when everyone was saying lehkonen should go for a goodrow/coleman type package, and yet look what he's doing now with who he's playing with now... it's all about circumstance for the team acquiring said players.

Lehkonen isn’t old or expensive so it’s a different scenario

Idk, Dvorak would be a good pickup for the Jets though.

I'm aware, but what I'm saying is when most everyone on here as habs fans had a package for lehkonen looking like those two i mentioned prior, they got laughed at by all the other capfriendly gms saying "no chance in hell". So you really do never know

Looking at the jets it would likely have to be a futures based deal likely in picks as I dont think there is a huge cross section in "players the habs would be interested in that WPG would be willing to trade".

On the actual roster (as listed by capfriendly) they could be willing to take back someone like demelo or Dillion if that helps facilitate a deal money wise but they wouldnt add much value to the return in habs eyes.

In the minors Lucius up front is probably the only guy of interest to the habs and thats probably not happening. They could take Vesalainen as a change of scenery type throw in but that wouldnt move the needle much. The habs do have a boatload of B-C tier forward prospects so everyone else is meh.

On the back end the main guys are all LD so that doesnt help us much. In net Salminen would be a interesting option but I think having just signed him as a free agent hes probably off the table.

On the reserve list Chibrikov objectively is the only needle mover there but again the habs do have several players in the system in his mould so the interest is probably not super high.

The habs do have several picks in the first couple rounds to move value around. I think a base of the WPG 1st for Dvorak + pick(s) is probably the only thing the habs would truly be interested in. The habs have 26 33 62 66 75 92 and 98 in the first 100 picks so finidng the pick mix is possible

Here's a quote from a piece I came across about a week ago, published by Marco d'Amico from Montreal Hockey Now. Take it for what it's worth:

“His name’s out there,” an NHL source confirmed to Montreal Hockey Now Thursday. “I’m not saying the Habs are shopping him, but from the sounds of what I’ve heard lately, teams are thinking of inquiring, if they haven’t already.”

...

So what could Dvorak net the Canadiens on the NHL trade market other than cap space?

“I would think a 1st. Or a prospect and a 2nd or 3rd. Not high first. Mid to lower,” another NHL source said."

Well, habs acquired him for a 1st + 2nd
At this point, the habs would only trade him if a team is willing to give a 1st + 3rd or the equivalent in terms of prospects.
From the Winnipeg team itself, I like Ehlers, Connor, Dubois. But obviously, all of them would require the hasb to add on top of Dvorak

Maybe we can do something surrounding Neal Pionk + something else for Dvo

What do you think of Calgary 1st + Dvorak + Mysak for Dubois

Other offer I just thought of:
Dvorak + Petry+ Mysak for Dubois + Pionk

I really don’t think the Jets would consider moving Pionk for an older player that gets paid more in Petry. Pionk had a bad year but I’m pretty sure he’ll rebound considering he’s been great the two years before with us and he was playing injured for most of last year. Dubois is at this point a big part of the Jets future unless they plan on rebuilding which I doubt they do, so he’s most likely staying. I’d definitely give a 1st and 3rd for Dvorak if that was the price, but I don’t see the Jets trading any of their core players other than maybe Schiefele.

Dvorak + 1st CGY 2022 + Mysak for Dubois?

And can it be Chaz Lucius + 3rd for Dvo if we'd take ths propect route

I don’t think the Jets trade Lucius unless it’s a blockbuster trade. That’s not a bad offer for Dubois but at this point with the uncertainty of if Schiefele is getting traded, the Jets are gonna want to have Dubois stick around.

I really dont like Pionk except as an empty calorie player that will help the tank much like a Hoffman or Wideman. Petry is certainly better than Pionk but a package for Dubois probably demands a Guhle and/or the 2023 1st rounder. If the Habs draft Wright which seems likely then that doesnt seem like a good idea.

He's Quebecois and there are rumours he'd sign with Mtl as a free agent in the coming years so these rumours will persist, fortunately or unfortunately.

Getting back to Dvorak, the 2022 WPG 1st could be in play for Dvorak and the 26th pick but that seems like an overpayment in a weak draft whereas the 14 and 26th picks dont hold a big gap between available prospects.

The 2023 1st rounder would be more appealing to the Habs whom seem proactive to get as many lottery tickets as possible after the Chiarot trade for the Cats 20231st

I don't see the Habs trading Dvorak yet tbh, but I think a 1st and 2nd would probably be the price considering that's what they got him for. So I'd say either Winnipeg's 2023 1st (top 10 protected) and a 2nd or Winnipeg's 2023 1st with no protection on its own with Montreal throwing in a 2nd

They need to do everything they can to get more tickets in the 2023 draft, agreed. The adv for them is they are in no rush to move Dvorak and Petry. Signing MSL seems to have squashed a lot of players concerns going into the season as MSL is a players coach that is still learning game management.