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Wings Dump Truck

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Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 18, 2022
Published: Jun. 18, 2022
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Description
Detroit spends $40m to add 8 assets.
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Lindström, Gustav
  2. Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Oilers move Kassian’s contract while getting back two young kids with potential who can contribute on basement dollar deals.
2.
DET
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Hirose, Taro
  2. Stephens, Mitchell [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Pens needing to fit Malkin & Letang’s deals and add pieces to remain competitive, convince Zucker to take one for the team and move to the D for the final year of his deal.
3.
DET
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Wolf, Dustin
  4. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Wings’ eat a whopping $12m in salary for a solid goalie prospect and a likely very late future 1st
CGY
  1. 2024 5th round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
CGY will end up dishing out close to $30m annually for their FA trio, can’t do it without convincing those two to waive their NTC’s.
4.
DET
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
If the Wings’ didn’t have a need for a backup goalie, Mrazek would likely be bought out after the deal.
TOR
  1. 2024 7th round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
Toronto could buy out Mrazek’s deal but paying around over $1m a year for the next 4 years is less manageable for a team so tight against the cap.
5.
DET
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
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    $2,625,000$2,625,000
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    $6,100,000$6,100,000
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    $2,375,000$2,375,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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    RFA - 3
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    $1,460,000$1,460,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
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    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    RFA - 4
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    RFA - 2
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
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    $820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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    RFA - 2
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    RFA - 2
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    $1,350,000$1,350,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
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    $3,800,000$3,800,000
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:21 a.m.
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    Yeah no. Zucker is a good player when healthy. I will take the risk of his health for one year before giving up our first.

    And if the team decides not to take that risk a buyout makes much more sense
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:22 a.m.
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    Yes because we are absolutely going to give up our first to dump Zucker. Nice logic here, Hextall probably probably picks up the phone and blocks the number.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:34 a.m.
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    laughably bad for Calgary
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    laughably bad for Calgary

    Lol, how do you propose they handle their cap situation?

    The Islanders gave up two 2nd round picks to move Andrew Ladd’s contract and Toronto gave up a 1st to move Marleau’s final year of his deal in a less dire situation.
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: Pensman69
    Yes because we are absolutely going to give up our first to dump Zucker. Nice logic here, Hextall probably probably picks up the phone and blocks the number.

    If not a buy out, what’s the price to move his deal?
    Quoting: Hullsy09
    Yeah no. Zucker is a good player when healthy. I will take the risk of his health for one year before giving up our first.

    And if the team decides not to take that risk a buyout makes much more sense
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:48 a.m.
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    Nice try, but sorry, you couldn't buyout Zuck or Luch until after next trade deadline...as per the official rules - A buyout can only be performed on a player who was on the clubs reserve list at 3:00pm on the most recent trade deadline.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: IDKtbh
    Lol, how do you propose they handle their cap situation?

    The Islanders gave up two 2nd round picks to move Andrew Ladd’s contract and Toronto gave up a 1st to move Marleau’s final year of his deal in a less dire situation.


    Marleau isn't remotely comparable. He refused to play for any team but Toronto or San Jose so the only way he was waiving was to be bought out immediately. And since he was over 35 the full cap hit of the buyout would effect them immediately.

    Ladd didn't even play in the NHL and had multiple years left on his deal

    Calgary only needs to move 1 of Monahan or Lucic, not both. It will cost like a 2nd to move Lucic, same as Stralman and Staal. Monahan won't cost assets move. Your ask for a top 5 goalie prospect in the world is already loony
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: IDKtbh
    If not a buy out, what’s the price to move his deal?


    I honestly have no clue. But considering he is a good player when healthy and it is only a 1 year commitment I would say a mid round pick. And I would be all over that if I was the gm of a rebuilding team with cap space. Put him in the top 6 and let him produce, then sell him at TDL at 50% retained
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:57 a.m.
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    Yeah no thanks, Detroit isn't going to spend close to the cap with a bunch of worthless cap dumps. We're trying to get better not help teams out of their cap ruts.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:58 a.m.
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    I think Edmonton is incredibly stoked about that deal.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Marleau isn't remotely comparable. He refused to play for any team but Toronto or San Jose so the only way he was waiving was to be bought out immediately. And since he was over 35 the full cap hit of the buyout would effect them immediately.

    Ladd didn't even play in the NHL and had multiple years left on his deal

    Calgary only needs to move 1 of Monahan or Lucic, not both. It will cost like a 2nd to move Lucic, same as Stralman and Staal. Monahan won't cost assets move. Your ask for a top 5 goalie prospect in the world is already loony

    Relax man, the kids good but he’s not Jonathan Quick just yet.

    Anyways, I’m gonna enjoy watching what actually unfolds with Lucic & Monahan. I don’t think either of them is on the roster if Calgary hopes to keep all three of Tkachuk, Gaudreau & Mangiapane. Ain’t happenin.
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:00 a.m.
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    Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
    Yeah no thanks, Detroit isn't going to spend close to the cap with a bunch of worthless cap dumps. We're trying to get better not help teams out of their cap ruts.

    Doesn’t adding 8 good assets make the team better?
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hullsy09
    I honestly have no clue. But considering he is a good player when healthy and it is only a 1 year commitment I would say a mid round pick. And I would be all over that if I was the gm of a rebuilding team with cap space. Put him in the top 6 and let him produce, then sell him at TDL at 50% retained

    Yeah, I mean I guess I could see a 3rd. He’s a good player but, he’s struggled to stay healthy. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with him. I don’t see him on the Pens when the season starts.
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: Pags71
    Nice try, but sorry, you couldn't buyout Zuck or Luch until after next trade deadline...as per the official rules - A buyout can only be performed on a player who was on the clubs reserve list at 3:00pm on the most recent trade deadline.

    Well, that certainly complicates things.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: IDKtbh
    Yeah, I mean I guess I could see a 3rd. He’s a good player but, he’s struggled to stay healthy. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with him. I don’t see him on the Pens when the season starts.


    I hope Hextall is aggressive and makes a cap dump or two. If he truly wants to compete as he says it would be smart bringing in another star in addition to Malkin and Letang. Filip forsberg and it Johnny Gaudreau don’t seem too bad smile
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hullsy09
    I hope Hextall is aggressive and makes a cap dump or two. If he truly wants to compete as he says it would be smart bringing in another star in addition to Malkin and Letang. Filip forsberg and it Johnny Gaudreau don’t seem too bad smile

    I could see a big deal for the Pens acquiring some more star power after bringing back Malkin & Letang but, I doubt it’ll be for one of the top names. I could see a trade though, I’d really like to see Chychrun over there.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: IDKtbh
    Doesn’t adding 8 good assets make the team better?


    Yeah the assets are fine, Just don't see those other teams giving up said assets.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:17 a.m.
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    Ok because Yzeman is big on cap dumps.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: IDKtbh
    Relax man, the kids good but he’s not Jonathan Quick just yet.

    Anyways, I’m gonna enjoy watching what actually unfolds with Lucic & Monahan. I don’t think either of them is on the roster if Calgary hopes to keep all three of Tkachuk, Gaudreau & Mangiapane. Ain’t happenin.


    Wolf has the best numbers in his D+3 rookie season since Saros and Hellebuyck, probably ranked #2 or 3 at lowest right now among goalie prospects

    Why wouldnt it? One will be moved but they certainly dont need to move both to make the cap work
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok because Yzeman is big on cap dumps.

    It’s not a prediction. It’s just something I would try to pull off.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Wolf has the best numbers in his D+3 rookie season since Saros and Hellebuyck, probably ranked #2 or 3 at lowest right now among goalie prospects

    Why wouldnt it? One will be moved but they certainly dont need to move both to make the cap work

    I’m obviously fond of the kid so I get your perspective on him. Doubt he’s moved but it’s not impossible. I mean they do have Markstrom.

    We’ll see what happens with the cap situation tho. It won’t be easy.
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:28 a.m.
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    I could see a big deal for the Pens acquiring some more star power after bringing back Malkin & Letang but, I doubt it’ll be for one of the top names. I could see a trade though, I’d really like to see Chychrun over there.


    Three questions:
    •out of curiosity are you a wings fan?
    •do you know if chychrun is just as effective at RD as LD?
    •most importantly, what would your chychrun —> Pitt trade look like?

    Man I would love to see him there, but it would mean emptying our prospect pool
    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hullsy09
    Three questions:
    •out of curiosity are you a wings fan?
    •do you know if chychrun is just as effective at RD as LD?
    •most importantly, what would your chychrun —> Pitt trade look like?

    Man I would love to see him there, but it would mean emptying our prospect pool


    I am a red wings fan, yes.

    I tend to view most defenseman as interchangeable unless there is a glaring weakness that prevents them from doing so. Chychrun could probably play either side although, he is Left Handed so it’s more of natural fit as LD I suppose.

    The penguins don’t seem to have much by way of assets, so I think it would be pretty steep in terms of picks going to Arizona. I could also see somewhat of a bidding war for Chychrun, so this is what I would expect from a PIT/ARZ deal if they were able to pull it off:

    Jakob Chychrun to Pens for Pierre Oilivier-Joseph, Marcus Pettersson + 2022 1st round pick + 2023 1st OR 2nd round pick. I could also see the second draft pick being conditional based on team performance.
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 2:52 a.m.
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    I am a red wings fan, yes.

    I tend to view most defenseman as interchangeable unless there is a glaring weakness that prevents them from doing so. Chychrun could probably play either side although, he is Left Handed so it’s more of natural fit as LD I suppose.

    The penguins don’t seem to have much by way of assets, so I think it would be pretty steep in terms of picks going to Arizona. I could also see somewhat of a bidding war for Chychrun, so this is what I would expect from a PIT/ARZ deal if they were able to pull it off:

    Jakob Chychrun to Pens for Pierre Oilivier-Joseph, Marcus Pettersson + 2022 1st round pick + 2023 1st OR 2nd round pick. I could also see the second draft pick being conditional based on team performance.


    Would be a great move to shake things up
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    Jun. 18, 2022 at 3:06 a.m.
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    I’m obviously fond of the kid so I get your perspective on him. Doubt he’s moved but it’s not impossible. I mean they do have Markstrom.

    We’ll see what happens with the cap situation tho. It won’t be easy.


    Markstrom is over 30, it's no different from when Saros came into the league behind Rinne.

    I really dont think it will be a hard offseason at all
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