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A Towes Trade Has To Involve 3 Teams

Created by: DougieGilmour
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 27, 2022
Published: Jul. 27, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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And to the typical people with horrible opinions, yes we could absolutely use Towes at 25% of his salary as a 3rd line centre. A team that hasn’t won a cup in over half a century needs a leader like this guy
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Toews, Jonathan
1$2,650,000
Trades
1.
TOR
CHI
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Part of a 3 way trade. Chicago retains 50% of his salary
2.
TOR
ANA
  1. Holmberg, Pontus
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Anaheim further retains 50% and we get Toews at 2.65 million instead of 10.5 million.
3.
4.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
We can’t afford him. That’s the price we pay for poor cap management
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,314,783$212,500$0$185,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Toews, Jonathan
$2,650,000$2,650,000
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
#51
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
My man I’m sorry life is this depressing that you have to make multiple accounts to argue with strangers on a message board. It’s seriously sad stuff. I hope you find help


the more you push this, the more im convinced this is your burner. I wonder which account i got so angry they got suspended it was
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Nah seeing as I a rangers fan have no part in this trade I'm not the ones being homers


seeing as i, a caps and blues fan, have no part of this trade, i will continue to argue with you while not being called a homer
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Mods have power egos
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
You just are here to start crap and argue like a loser. It’s cute but concerning none the less. Find a hobby besides getting off over arguing with strangers


But it just gets me soooo...... mmmmm.... 🤤🤤🤤🤤
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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You're mad at your dad not me


lol, bro, you're insulting people because you're mad your team didnt qualify a goalie you say is bad.
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: dickie_boon
seeing as i, a caps and blues fan, have no part of this trade, i will continue to argue with you while not being called a homer


What is your profile picture
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the more you push this, the more im convinced this is your burner. I wonder which account i got so angry they got suspended it was


I can tell you are that sad late 20s type who has no woman and is looking for outlets for their frustration. It’s probably also why you have such an obsession with defending Dubas like he’s your best friend. He’s a nerdy looking young guy but he’s made a successful career. I think you live vicariously through him to cover whatever it is that you need help with
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
should we talk about how vegas opperates on a totally different level than any team in the league? Do you want to take a look at literally every single other team who retained a single year of minor salary?
hell, Pacciortty makes like 2.5 mill more than the retained here and vegas needed to clear cap space at any cost. the leafs can easily wiggle about and still function as a team


Ok how about kassian,, 29th OA, 2nd, 3rd for 32 OA
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
I can tell you are that sad late 20s type who has no woman and is looking for outlets for their frustration. It’s probably also why you have such an obsession with defending Dubas like he’s your best friend. He’s a nerdy looking young guy but he’s made a successful career. I think you live vicariously through him to cover whatever it is that you need help with


yep, definitely got suspended because they couldnt keep up. Jumps right to insults despite no real interaction with me before. Reeks of previously built up anger and unresolved feelings. It's a hockey website dude. chill
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
Ok how about kassian,, 29th OA, 2nd, 3rd for 32 OA


he has 2 years left and costs more. so no
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yep, definitely got suspended because they couldnt keep up. Jumps right to insults despite no real interaction with me before. Reeks of previously built up anger and unresolved feelings. It's a hockey website dude. chill


You spend every second here provoking people into arguments man. You should take your own advice from that last sentence
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he has 2 years left and costs more. so no


Ok I've had my fun with the brick walls catch yall on the next troll post
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
You spend every second here provoking people into arguments man. You should take your own advice from that last sentence


did you see me arguing with a star wars guy about it?
Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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Toews isn't a superstar and salary is an issue but the idea that his value as a player is "4th round pick and an AHL guy" is...come on.
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
I thought we were just saying dumb stuff... it seemed like that's where you wanted to take this when you said kerfoot isn't a cap dump


Kerfoot has value and in a trade like this he would just be considered an auxiliary piece that one of the teams will take to flip for more assets. You mentioned Pacioretty who was traded from a team well over the cap to a team that wanted him who doesn't have much cap. Bjorkstrand got traded from a team over the cap who probably wanted to dump Nyquist instead but the options were probably pay to dump Nyquist or trade Bjorkstrand for a 3rd and 4th. In this unrealistic scenario, the teams are literally retaining cap to accommodate the Leafs (they won't be doing any favors though), so he's not going to carry negative value but he's just going to be a sweetener on top of the main sweetener.

You are right though that there isn't enough going to either team. Especially, since each team can only retain on 3 salaries per season. CHI has 4 candidates thwt potentially might be worth moving for assets but will have to retain: Kane, Toews, Domi, and Anathnasiou. If Domi and Anathnasiou are bringing in better assets than Toews, there is no sense in retaining on him. Anaheim has at least Shattenkirk but they will also be looking to help teams if it's worth it.

Sandin is being cap dumped here anyways so him as the main thing to Anaheim would make sense along with Kerfoot.

Holmberg and the 3rd can then go to CHI as well but that package would still be lacking. They would need at least a conditional 1st (a 2nd that upgrades to a first if the Leafs make it to the conference finals and Toews plays x amount of games).
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quoting: carts88
your basically getting free stuff. You're not spending to the ceiling anyway lol.


That’s irrelevant. Cap space has value, and GMs don’t just do favors for other teams because they can. Look at every deal done this off-season as it relates to cap space and you’ll see cap space is a premium, and wielding it to help another team nets some very solid returns. This isn’t even close to getting ANA to partake
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 12:58 p.m.
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By the time I posted that mini essay, a ton of other people came in to join these random side arguments not relevant to the trade itself.

Y'all need to take a minute to relax, it's like a playground on this thread.
Jul. 27, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
If they aren't even on the same line and Toews is effective, only silly Fans would complain. A lot of the complaints about Tavares aren't even warranted, they say he's overpaid based off his PPG, in real dollars he's making around the same as Stamkos I believe, and if they are overpaid it's by a mil or two.


I was being oblique.
Jul. 27, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
I was being oblique.


Don't be oblique, or obtuse, or try to be right. Be square.
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Jul. 27, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Don't be oblique, or obtuse, or try to be right. Be square.


Clever.
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