The CHI trade is a classic quantity vs quality trade. Drop Pashin, Suzuki, Rizzo and add include (1) high value prospect.

Kane aint going to Carolina lmao it's either Buffalo or New York

Why? He can sign at either place next year if he wants to finish career there. Might as well go to where you think you can win. It’s like 4 months. Not saying CAR is the destination that he would choose but definitely wouldn’t rule them or any other legit contender out.

Because the Rangers will be a contender and he would take a pay-cut to win their rather than Carolina

Just go and look at Pashin's numbers real fast. Dude is going to be a monster. Do the same for Rizzo. He's not got the same upside, but both are very good prospects

Super narrow focused view. What if they can’t fit him in or agree on a package? What if Igor gets hurt and they aren’t contenders? He’s just gonna sit on a basement dwelling team for no reason? That’s not how these guys are wired.

Tell me how New York affords him

My man...I 100% understand your bias. The Hawks have a 7th round pick that's a PPG in the WHL too. I'm not trying to use Jalen Luypen to acquire Sebastian Aho...

Double retention.

I mean with what assets lol, any Kane to NYR trade on here that gives Chicago anything of value is torn apart by Ranger fans

Buddy, go and look at the scouting report on Pashin. He fell to the 7th round because he was expected to be difficult to get out of Russia. It's commonly accepted he was a late 1st/early 2nd round talent. They're not the same. Go and look at any redraft, Pashin is somewhere in the first 3 rounds. Oh, and Pashin is now in North America after being a PPG in Russia, and playing in the KHL. These guys are not comparable. Luypen <<<< Pashin. Again, go and look at Pashin's scouting report.

Wow. All due respect, but Ranger fans getting just a bit ahead of themselves here. I expect them to be a contender, but the Canes just as much. And remember, Islander fans had high hopes this time last year after coming within 1 win of the finals. We all start over in October and anything can happen.

Finally a little sense in ya! "Somewhere in the first 3 rounds". and you want Kaner?!?! Also, 0 points in 4 career games in the KHL doesn't mean he's a "KHLer". He's had success in the VHL and MHL. I'm not saying he's a bust of a prospect. Just again...pretty extreme bias to think a pair of 7th round picks are getting Kaner. Once he's a dominant in the AHL...then we'll talk.

Bahahahaha okay buddy/ Whatever you say. As I said, go and look at his scouting report. He's a late 1st round talent. The fact you are calling him a 7th round pick when it is pretty common knowledge that the fact he fell to pick #199 is the steal of that draft. As I said, he was projected to go anywhere in the first 3 rounds as someone that is incredibly loyal to his KHL club. He's out of the KHL now and is in the USA on his deal. He's still undersized, but if the next thing you're going to say is "7th round pick", please spare the time and just do not hit submit because it's clear you do not know much about this player. He's a top 3 prospect in the Canes organization right now.

No, 7th round picks can pan out. Mark Stone was a 6th round pick. It's just that he needs to prove it and he hasn't...YET. No one is giving you credit for hopes and dreams. The trade above is very likely the worst proposal I've seen for Kaner. Top 3 prospect?!?!?! Crazy. You go pick the publication and the highest ranking he's ever received (thus far) is being mentioned within the "just missed the cut" for a top 10 prospects list.

https://www.canescountry.com/2022/7/26/23274213/carolina-hurricanes-nhl-draft-prospects-ranking-morrow
https://thehockeywriters.com/hurricanes-top-10-prospects-summer-2022/
https://nhlrumors.com/2021-22-top-10-carolina-hurricanes-prospects/2021/09/27/
https://www.canescountry.com/2022/1/21/22893430/carolina-hurricanes-nhl-prospects-drury-rees-suzuki

Proceed to list SB Nations canes link, THW and NHL rumors. Great sources. Nice. Ask a Canes fan on here. Just because you do not know how good Pashin is does not diminish his value.

Ask Canes fans on here how good Scott Morrow is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Gunler is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Kochetkov is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Drury is. Leading your team to the Calder Cup title is far more impressive than MHL/VHL success. Heck, Pashin isn't even CAR's best Russian...Forward...prospect. Ponomarev and Trikozov are better prospects. Seriously! You're just trying to sell me a Honda Accord, but call it a Ferrari. It's a car. It's serviceable, but it's not getting Patrick Kane.

I think Kane for Gardiner, Pashin and a 1st gets it done.

You really think Ponomarev is better than Pashin? You're insane. Get lost. Ponomarev has a very high floor, sure, but he's not got a particularly high ceiling. You can argue Trikizov, and I'd be open to listening to that argument, but Drury isn't as good as Pashin. Gunler isn't as good as Pashin. Kochetkov is a goalie and those things are weird. Morrow is the only prospect in the organization that is CLEARLY better than Pashin, and he's putting up better numbers than Cale Makar did in the same system at UMass. If you want to use a car metaphor, think of Ponomarev as a Ford Focus. Not pretty but it'll get it done. Think of Pashin as a F Pace Jaguar. Undersized, but very flashy. Gets the job done and in style. It's not the Lamborgini Aventador that Morrow is, but it's still one of the best options out there.

Can't we all just get along...

Chicago - what's a doable deal for Kane at 50% retained? A fair deal.

Seattle (or facsimile) - what would be fair for another 50% retained on Kane? Realistic.

I think this is something the Canes would really like to explore, but I think only if the deal is manageable as far as assets going out.

What say you?

Morrow- best canes prospect. Arguably top 30 prospect in the NHL but logically closer to late 30s early 40s

Gunler- definitely fell in his draft year but has been lack luster so far in my opinion. He performed decently in the SHL this past season but he is closer to a 7-8 prospect in the canes pool IMO.

Kochetkov- no question the canes 2nd best prospect. Was drafted as an overager but he has shown being worth every bit of the pick. He played well in Russia and continued his success in the AHL and even got into some NHL games too. Kochetkov could be a back up this year but the canes are being smart with their development on him.

Drury- definitely would have been an NHLer on 25 other teams. The canes are just better and therefore let him marinate in the AHL. He hasn’t carried his success in development into recent years but he is still a good player nonetheless. I was higher on him after the 2020-2021 season after his massive SHL success. He has solid middle 6 upside.

Ponomarev- had a very up and down season. Played in the KHL VHL MHL and AHL. He was best in the AHL and MHL. That is almost expected however as he was a KHL talent playing in the MHL. Coming to America he was expected to play well. His KHL stats are lackluster as he was playing under 5 minutes a game. His VHL stats are pretty bad imo. He got plenty of opportunity yet was lackluster in it.

Gleb- he is gleb. I liked gleb. I say no more no less.

Pashin- heavily slept on prospect. He was projected to go in the first 3 rounds of the 2020 draft but surprise surprise, the Russian factor. Look at him as a prospect similar to grudinin from this past draft who also went to carolina. They have the skill to be a first round prospect, that’s not debated, but they fell due to being Russian and undersized. 5’8 forward pashin and 5’10 defenseman grudinin. Pashin was mocked by button at 56 and Mackenzie at 89. To be taken at 199 is criminal for pashin. Not to mention those were mock drafts who ranked him there including the Russian factor and the fact he is undersized. I remember reading reports on pashin after the draft that if he were already in America, he could have competed for a first round spot. He performed in the VHL like how you would want a 19 year old to play in the VHL.

The canes prospect pool is so deep so in those rankings he is ranked as an HM or near the bottom. Put him in a pool that isn’t deep, I’ll use your hawks for example, pre 2022 draft because that was when those rankings were from, he would be 4th in their pool, bias aside. I could argue third too. Riechel and commesso are 1-2, and then you could put Mitchell or Dach. I believe pashin is better than both of those guys but I am saying 4th to rid the bias. Now post draft. I would honestly put pashin over anybody other than riechel nazar korchinski commesso and maybe rinzel (I don’t like rinzel but I won’t disrespect your guy). Pashin is still 5th or 6th in chicagos pool, post draft with 3 first round picks.

To rank the canes prospects I have the list as follows:
1) morrow
2) gleb
3) kochetkov
4) drury
5) Gunler
6) Pashin
7) nikishin (would be higher but signed in KHL for 5 more years)
8) Ponomarev
9) Suzuki
10) Rees

I think pashin could be higher too as his upside is higher than drury and Gunler but I am knocking him because of size. Anyways you said ask canes fans how good these players are and I delivered. I will not say anything more but this is what you asked for.

Somebody else in the West would have to pinch in for Seattle. They don't have much cap space so it wouldn't work for them. The deal would probably be a pick or prospect to retain the $2.654m.