Sabres young core looks awesome. Don't even have Rosen in here or the other goalie (forgetting his name)

How does Samuelson signing for 4.2 mill make you believe that Power will sign for only 6.5?

All that cap space is gone if Krebs is given more than 3.5 and Power is given more than 6.5.

Also being tight to the cap in 2024-2025 with Savoie, Kulich, Quinn, JJ, and Levi all coming due next season. If any of these guy's pan out it is going to be impossible to sign them all

In a rebuild/retool the bruins keep the 25 year old with four additional years of term, rather than acquiring that junk.

Zero interest from Boston. They get better offers if they were moving him. They aren’t.

The Cap won’t be an issue for us at all- not for YEARS
Eventually it will be if all our young talent develops like we want it to, but that would be a good thing

Portillo is probably the guy you are thinking of. My guess is that if you really like him, you can offer him a contract on August 15th. We also took a goalie in the second round this year, don't remember his name, he was rated either first or second best goalie in the draft (which means nothing when looking at young goalies), and he's huge.

Skinner & his $9mil comes off the books
And the Cap IS going up
We’ll be just fine, thanks

He is forgetting Rosen. I think at the next level Savoie is gonna be a winger tho.

Carlo would b great. It would gives us a top 4 that could eat 50 minutes. I think u would have to give a little more Maybe rights to Johnson or 1 of Rosen, poltipov ect

I'm not high on Rosen personally, think Kulich is a better prospect. Portillo I traded, doubtful he signs with Buffalo. Unless you mean Topias Leinonen, not enough data to know if he will pan out.



Its a bridge deal for Power, 3 years. Dahlin signed his bridge for 6 mil, so I'm being generous as I'm doubtful Power has the initial success Dahlin had. This is without the cap going up at all, obviously it will go up, probably at least 5 mil in the next two seasons. My point was to show there is plenty of cap space to go around.



Okay, that's a poorly formed opinion imo because you get a young 2nd line center, a fantastic goalie prospect, and a couple picks.



Fair, its not a bad offer imo, could add a forward prospect instead of the 3rd, Rosen for example.



Exactly my point.

U should watch Rosen more
He’s dynamic- has legit top line talent offensively
Might be the best skating prospect we have

You’re gonna like watching him i think

Haha what? First off middlestadt isn’t anything close to a 2c on a good team. He’s maybe a mediocre 3C. I think most teams expect north of half point per game production from good top six guys. He’s also not that young, he’s about to be 24. Carlo is a good top four guy for a good team. He also has the better contract.

The bruins starting goalie is 23. Go ahead and keep the “excellent,” goalie prospect.

Your analysis is horrid in my opinion.

Mitts is a massive disappointment. Certainly does not appear he will be the player you hoped for. Not enough offense for a top 6 role. Portillo is of little use to Boston. Leaving a pair of ok, but not enough to get the job done considering the rest, picks.

Boston was not willing to include Carlo in a deal for Landeskog after his rookie year.

Van was told he was not going to be on the table when they flirted with Garland and JT.

I can’t see a pile of mediocre being much interest.

The only way Boston considers moving Carlo is for a good young center. If Mitts had shown any signs of living up to expectations it might have been a thing. But he’s basically what Studnicka would be if we actually let him play. And we don’t. Mitts would have to show far more this year to get our interest at all.

@Skyraider112 first of all great projection.
While some of the salaries or line up may be different in three years, you did a good job.
Looking at the 2020-21 team who could have predicted that they would finish last and draft Power.
Who had the foresight to know Eichel, Reinhart, Hall, Ristolainen, Montour, Miller, and Ullmark would NOT be on the team in the 2022-23 season.

@Gofnut999 Unlikely Carlo will be moved only Zacha and Lauko are younger than he.
I completely agree with you as you are correct, currently there is nothing in this offer to get the Bruins excited.
Let's revisit this discussion at the end of this season as this trade is looking two years into the future.
Mittelstadt will appear to be a stronger commodity at the end of this season.
His last two seasons were restrained by Krueger and injury.

I think the problem Sabres fans have with Rosen is the shl season he had playing with adults. Not sure what his usage was, but I think you want more from your 14th overall pick. I understand he needs to fill out, hopefully we will see more this year.

I was not impressed with his game at the WJC either, where he was playing with similarly aged players on a very stacked team. He appears for flashes during the game but then disappears for the rest, at least that's what I saw.



You may think he's a disappointment but this season will determine whether that statement is true or not. Let's wait until the end of the season to resume this discussion. We will see what direction Boston goes and how Mittelstadt does with hopefully a full healthy season under his belt.



Well when Bergeron and Krejci retire, your top line center is going to be one of Coyle, Zacha, or Beecher unless another center is brought in. Therefore Mitts would instantly be your 2nd or even 1st line center, feel free to disagree but that's how I view it. Other prospects can be added to the trade to make it suit Boston's needs better, players like Rosen, Johnson etc. Let's just say Boston is shopping Carlo within the next 2 seasons, what would be your asking price from Buffalo?

If that’s the case, then those Sabres fans are being dumb
Bc I’m sure all they did was look at his stats & didn’t watch even ONE of his SHL games
And judging ANY prospect off an international tourney’s 5ish games is ridiculous as well
Typical reactionary nonsense of the lowest common denominator

All I can speak to is what I saw at the WJC this summer. I even went to a game in person with the objective to watch Rosen as closely as possible. I didn't personally think he looked like a top 15 draft pick for most of the tournament. That's not to say he doesn't deserve to have been drafted there. All I stated was that I'm not high on Rosen as a prospect, especially when I see other forward prospects we have like Cederqvist, Kisakov, Kulich, Kozak, Rousek impressing me at nearly every turn. Maybe my opinion would be different if I had been able to watch him in some of the Swedish pro games he played last season.

If you have seen him play more, I'd love to hear your insight on him as a player

He’s a dynamic skater with a great shot
True 1st line potential

Judging him off the extremely small sample size you’ve seen him in is utterly crazy

I’m not even saying he will work out, it’s WAY TOO SOON to tell either way

Its not utterly crazy, its what people do. I form opinions on players by what I see of them and what others with knowledge tell me. No different then you, just you happen to have a different opinion than me. Time will indeed tell if that skating and shot translate to the NA pro leagues. Appert will give him every chance to succeed in Roch this season

Forming an opinion before u have enough evidence to be able to back it up is EXACTLY “utterly ridiculous”

Alright, we’ve got some pretty big flaws in logic here, both in terms of value, and fit.

Let’s just remove names from the equation to make it simpler.
Value: Let’s say a team is devoid of centers. Someone offers this team a guy that’s a 3C. Is that team supposed to say, “oh, well he might play 1C for this team, we should definitely pay 1C prices?” Of course not. That would be lunacy.
Fit: To fit this situation, let’s say a team doesn’t have legitimate top line center moving forward, but have plenty of third line guys, fourth line guys, and maybe even fringe second line guys. Are they just supposed to pay up to get another guy that’s suited for that role? Then they have another 3C, of which they have plenty, playing a role the player isn’t qualified for. So instead of not having a legit top line center, they still don’t have one, but have now removed valuable assets off the roster, and from the organization. They suck more.

So no, “mitts,” isn’t a fit for, “my,” team (I’m not on the team, you can just say them or the bruins) either in terms of value, or organizational fit, and this trade is awful for boston.

There isn’t really an asking price. The player isn’t available unless the price is just too good to pass up.

Settle down tiger. There’s nothing unreasonable about a guy saying, “i watched this guy play, and he didn’t look like a top 15 pick to me.” I’m guessing theres a pretty long list of failed Sabres prospects you thought the same thing about.

I rescind my trade anyways. Mitts has been lights out to start the season. You can keep Carlo. Enjoy watching your team this year

I will. I’ll probably enjoy watching them in the playoffs too.