Edited Oct. 26, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
No models had CBJ making the playoffs. A few had us being 5th-6th in the metro at best. All had us out side of the playoffs. Hence why I say this is not the year we compete unless we take a huge step, which we have not. Larsen can take some of the blame but not all. Arizona also beat Toronto last week in Toronto, Chicago beat Florida last night. Just cause a team is suppose to be in the Bedard sweepstakes doesn't mean they are going to lose every game.
Did you watch that PP we had where we never got possession in their zone for more than 5 seconds... KJ gave away the puck, twice. He did not "hold on to the puck when pressured to wait and make the smart pass" He just gave it away. KJ has practiced with the team since the start of the season, Laine had his FIRST practice with the team in 2 weeks before the game yesterday. Laine should get more of a pass than KJ 100%. Also lol, KJ HAS been given more opportunity like last night and he messed it up. I love KJ and think he is good CURRENTLY but you are singing his praises way too much like he's the next coming of Rick Nash already.
Larsen will be the coach the whole season unless we drop like 9 of the next 12 games. Bad losses happened, just ask Toronto or Florida. We are fine is my main point, bringing up how the coaching staff should be wary and maybe out of time soon is being on the ledge.
I am nowhere near the ledge. You are severely misreading my statements. I said give him 12-15 games to show improvement before calling the coach into question, you literally said the same thing. It's not the win or loss result that is a concern right now, it is the extreme inconsistency in the team's effort and focus. That is a coaching issue to resolve. They have time to do so, but if it continues then it will be called into question.
Being within striking distance of a playoff spot - as you said, 5th or 6th in the Metro - IS competing. Being close in games is competing. Having consistent effort is competing. Being last in the Metro and getting regularly blown out is not. If you have guys like Gaudreau, Laine, Voracek, Werenski, Jenner, highly talented youth like Johnson, Sillinger and Chinakov, a fast and physical fourth line, then you should be competing. This is not a tanking team. Just accepting a mediocre result before it even happens is a not only not competing, but it's also setting yourself up for future failure. I guarantee you no one in that building is thinking that way. The expectation is to compete. Again, not demanding a playoff berth, but not competing should not be acceptable for a roster of this caliber.
It's not the win-loss result I'm worried about, it is the extreme inconsistency in effort and focus. This is what the coaching is there for. The consistent effort and focus are what we need to see improved. I'm not calling for anyone's job now and won't be at the end of the season either if we can at least show compete. Right now, we are regularly getting blown out. If that doesn't change over the next month, then yes, we may have a coaching issue. Notice, I said "may have". Not language used by people ready to jump.