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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2022
Published: Nov. 30, 2022
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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sensonfire
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We don't want to give millions of dollars to someone that might have participated in a gang rape.

If this is your offer-sheet, we won't match it.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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He is speculated to be a sexual predator
Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
We don't want to give millions of dollars to someone that might have participated in a gang rape.

If this is your offer-sheet, we won't match it.


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
He is speculated to be a sexual predator


oh yikes did not realize thats why theres no contract. Disgusting
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
He is speculated to be a sexual predator


I don't think he's the ONLY one. ☹️
Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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I don't think he's the ONLY one. ☹️


yes that is my issue here either other players didnt come forward to their respective teams, or and this is what i think actually happened, they told the GM's and they dont care.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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Dont want or have any desire to even be in the convo around this guy

The fact he aint signed is a sign to me he was a part of the HC scandal as why would Ottawa not sign him if that was not the case
Nov. 30, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.
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yes that is my issue here either other players didnt come forward to their respective teams, or and this is what i think actually happened, they told the GM's and they dont care.


It's a huge problem in hockey still. It's so sad when so many will defend people that do this saying, "if she didn't want to be there she could have left" or "it's just some woman wanting money" it's absolutely disgusting. Hockey players and men in general get away with rape way too often. It needs to be stamped out and hard.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
It's a huge problem in hockey still. It's so sad when so many will defend people that do this saying, "if she didn't want to be there she could have left" or "it's just some woman wanting money" it's absolutely disgusting. Hockey players and men in general get away with rape way too often. It needs to be stamped out and hard.


It's hard watching people who've damaged others through sexual abuse go on to be successful without getting what they deserve. Evidence for a strong legal convictions can be so scarce too. Even if there is evidence, often victims have such a short time to take action while still processing what happened. Sometimes they don't even have it in them to come forward to the police because of how much it messed them up or out of fear or both.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
It's hard watching people who've damaged others through sexual abuse go on to be successful without getting what they deserve. Evidence for a strong legal convictions can be so scarce too. Even if there is evidence, often victims have such a short time to take action while still processing what happened. Sometimes they don't even have it in them to come forward to the police because of how much it messed them up or out of fear or both.


Yup and once in court, they are asked to relive a absolutely horrifying situation and if they seem troubled the defence uses that as the victim changing their story. Imagine trying to stay composed when faced with all that.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.
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He's a rapist
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
We don't want to give millions of dollars to someone that might have participated in a gang rape.

If this is your offer-sheet, we won't match it.


They already giving millions to a domestic abuser and another potential rapist.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
He's a rapist


Quoting: leafs101
oh yikes did not realize thats why theres no contract. Disgusting
Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
They already giving millions to a domestic abuser and another potential rapist.


1. Watson has took responsibility for his actions that took place over 4 years ago.


2. We signed Batherson to his extension before the Hockey Canada Scandal came to light and he has yet to be charged with any crimes.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
1. Watson has took responsibility for his actions that took place over 4 years ago.


2. We signed Batherson to his extension before the Hockey Canada Scandal came to light and he has yet to be charged with any crimes.

Batherson has also been on the forefront of the Sens marketing. Whereas cheap, good depth Formenton doesn't have a contract.

Think it's safe to say the Sens have a good idea of what went down.
 
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