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Player Values

Created by: BenningTruther
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 18, 2022
Published: Dec. 19, 2022
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discussion post, curious to see
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (ANA)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (ANA)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (ANA)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (ANA)
2.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (ARI)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (ARI)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (ARI)
3.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (BOS)
4.
VAN
  1. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2025 1st round pick (BOS)
5.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
6.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
7.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
8.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CAR)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
CAR
9.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
10.
VAN
  1. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
11.
VAN
  1. 2025 1st round pick (CAR)
12.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CHI)
13.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (DAL)
14.
VAN
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (COL)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (COL)
15.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)
16.
17.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (CGY)
18.
VAN
  1. 2023 4th round pick (CBJ)
19.
VAN
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
20.
VAN
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (CBJ)
21.
VAN
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (CBJ)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$19,625,834$1,250,000$397,500$62,874,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$846,667$846,667
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$816,667$816,667
LW
RFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$821,667$821,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$860,833$860,833 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Dec. 19, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.
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I like how Carolina just gives us 2 picks.

I think you may be overvaluing much of the Canucks players
Dec. 19, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.
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I think Schenn would be a third. Stillman 5th. Hogs a second. Pearson a 4th.

But pretty realistic.
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 12:11 a.m.
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If I divine your intentions properly, all of the destination teams are just placeholders. (There's no way Anaheim is trading its ticket to the Bedard/Fantilli sweeps, and then adding firsts.) If I'm right, I think that you need to edit the Team Explanation as soon as possible to confirm this. (Also, who goes in trade #8?)

The Miller and Horvat deals look right to me. Boeser and Garland also look accurate. I think that you're a little high on Pearson and Dermott. On the other hand, I think that OEL still has some value to the right team in the right city for the right deal.
Dec. 19, 2022 at 12:13 a.m.
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Neither winger would get 2 seconds from buffalo. Maybe some other team, Buffalo doesn't need wingers. 2 seconds is a pretty big ask considering the winger market.
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 1:03 a.m.
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Sabres wouldn’t give up one 2nd for Boeser or Mikheyev,
let alone two 🤣🤣🤣
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.
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Doubt Demko would get 2 1sts. The valuable thing for goalies is consistency and Demko hasn't had a lot of that. 1 bad season, a good 4 playoff games followed by 2 decent season and now back to a bad season. His contract isn't exactly a gift either and could go real bad real fast. He, like most goalies, is a gamble right now and teams probably won't be willing to gamble 2 1st round picks.
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 5:04 a.m.
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Those 2nds could actually be important this draft, Defense isn't very highly ranked in this draft, might have to use those 2nds to restock are D prospects.
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 7:00 a.m.
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Quoting: BUFF36
Those 2nds could actually be important this draft, Defense isn't very highly ranked in this draft, might have to use those 2nds to restock are D prospects.


Was thinking depending on where the Sabres fall. Say they finish with the 13th pick. Might be a decent draft depending on who's there to trade back to the 20-25 range and see what extra picks or maybe a decent D prospect could be had by a team looking at a Certain individual to take. About the spot where the Dman should start coming or the board.
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Dec. 19, 2022 at 7:10 a.m.
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How often does a rental fetch a pair of 1st round picks?
Dec. 19, 2022 at 8:04 a.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
How often does a rental fetch a pair of 1st round picks?


The answer is never, but people will cite duchene, while not at all remembering what happened.
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
If I divine your intentions properly, all of the destination teams are just placeholders. (There's no way Anaheim is trading its ticket to the Bedard/Fantilli sweeps, and then adding firsts.) If I'm right, I think that you need to edit the Team Explanation as soon as possible to confirm this. (Also, who goes in trade #8?)

The Miller and Horvat deals look right to me. Boeser and Garland also look accurate. I think that you're a little high on Pearson and Dermott. On the other hand, I think that OEL still has some value to the right team in the right city for the right deal.


Quoting: sabres89
Neither winger would get 2 seconds from buffalo. Maybe some other team, Buffalo doesn't need wingers. 2 seconds is a pretty big ask considering the winger market.


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Sabres wouldn’t give up one 2nd for Boeser or Mikheyev,
let alone two 🤣🤣🤣


Quoting: BUFF36
Those 2nds could actually be important this draft, Defense isn't very highly ranked in this draft, might have to use those 2nds to restock are D prospects.


Quoting: DefenseFirst
The answer is never, but people will cite duchene, while not at all remembering what happened.


felt it was pretty obvious teams were place holders, i went in alphabetical order. and its just and idea of player values trades would not be pure picks
Dec. 22, 2022 at 12:42 a.m.
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Quoting: BenningTruther
felt it was pretty obvious teams were place holders, i went in alphabetical order. and its just and idea of player values trades would not be pure picks


We’ll i didn’t look at the other trades u proposed,
but you’re overvaluing the guys listed to go to Buffalo imo
Dec. 22, 2022 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
We’ll i didn’t look at the other trades u proposed,
but you’re overvaluing the guys listed to go to Buffalo imo


maybe you should read the entire post and understand the point of it before you comment
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Dec. 22, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: NV94
I like how Carolina just gives us 2 picks.

I think you may be overvaluing much of the Canucks players


Quoting: capsfan2121
I think Schenn would be a third. Stillman 5th. Hogs a second. Pearson a 4th.

But pretty realistic.


Quoting: OldNYIfan
If I divine your intentions properly, all of the destination teams are just placeholders. (There's no way Anaheim is trading its ticket to the Bedard/Fantilli sweeps, and then adding firsts.) If I'm right, I think that you need to edit the Team Explanation as soon as possible to confirm this. (Also, who goes in trade #8?)

The Miller and Horvat deals look right to me. Boeser and Garland also look accurate. I think that you're a little high on Pearson and Dermott. On the other hand, I think that OEL still has some value to the right team in the right city for the right deal.


Quoting: sabres89
Neither winger would get 2 seconds from buffalo. Maybe some other team, Buffalo doesn't need wingers. 2 seconds is a pretty big ask considering the winger market.


Quoting: Byrr
Doubt Demko would get 2 1sts. The valuable thing for goalies is consistency and Demko hasn't had a lot of that. 1 bad season, a good 4 playoff games followed by 2 decent season and now back to a bad season. His contract isn't exactly a gift either and could go real bad real fast. He, like most goalies, is a gamble right now and teams probably won't be willing to gamble 2 1st round picks.


Quoting: BUFF36
Those 2nds could actually be important this draft, Defense isn't very highly ranked in this draft, might have to use those 2nds to restock are D prospects.


Quoting: BUFF36
Was thinking depending on where the Sabres fall. Say they finish with the 13th pick. Might be a decent draft depending on who's there to trade back to the 20-25 range and see what extra picks or maybe a decent D prospect could be had by a team looking at a Certain individual to take. About the spot where the Dman should start coming or the board.


@BenningTruther Completely understand that these are just fake trades not necessarily to the teams mentioned.
One would never presume that you are over valuing your team, but getting 14 first round and 13 second round picks seems to be a lot for the players from a team that is 13-15-3.
Dec. 23, 2022 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
BenningTruther Completely understand that these are just fake trades not necessarily to the teams mentioned.
One would never presume that you are over valuing your team, but getting 14 first round and 13 second round picks seems to be a lot for the players from a team that is 13-15-3.


if they were to completely blow it up and trade everything of value i dont think its far off. Like i said before the trades wouldnt be pure picks but assets of that value. every time i make trades for prospects/players i have someone in the comments telling me half their team in untouchable so i dont even bother.

As for the canucks record, i dont think that correlates to player values that much. Canucks still have so many young players who havnt hit their ceiling yet, dont really think the fact the canucks suck brings the value down for individual guys, just means the front office cant build a team
Dec. 23, 2022 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
Doubt Demko would get 2 1sts. The valuable thing for goalies is consistency and Demko hasn't had a lot of that. 1 bad season, a good 4 playoff games followed by 2 decent season and now back to a bad season. His contract isn't exactly a gift either and could go real bad real fast. He, like most goalies, is a gamble right now and teams probably won't be willing to gamble 2 1st round picks.


those two "decent" seasons would have been elite seasons if he had a team infront of him. ask any canucks fan demko was a top 5-7 goalie in the league for those 2 years. and having him at 5x5 is the last good thing benning did. Makes asmuch/less than so many guys he is miles ahead of. Goalies can have down years Helle is a great example getting back to being elite
Dec. 23, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: BenningTruther
maybe you should read the entire post and understand the point of it before you comment


Maybe i did…. and my point STILL stands-
NO ONE is giving up two 2nds for Mikheyev or Boeser
Good luck with that

Also, no need to get snotty just bc i think your values are off
Dec. 25, 2022 at 12:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Maybe i did…. and my point STILL stands-
NO ONE is giving up two 2nds for Mikheyev or Boeser
Good luck with that

Also, no need to get snotty just bc i think your values are off


i mean you literally said you didnt read the post. just seen a buffalo trade and ran to the comments.

and if you read the posts you would understand that the trades arnt for pure picks.... and if you thinks theres not a team out there that wouldnt give up a B prospect and a pick for either of those two give your head a shake
Dec. 25, 2022 at 2:57 a.m.
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Quoting: BenningTruther
i mean you literally said you didnt read the post. just seen a buffalo trade and ran to the comments.

and if you read the posts you would understand that the trades arnt for pure picks.... and if you thinks theres not a team out there that wouldnt give up a B prospect and a pick for either of those two give your head a shake


There’s been some time since Thursday…..

And no, neither of them have the value of two 2nds
Keep dreaming pal
 
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