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Caps Splash - Sens fans thoughts

Created by: All_Knowing

Team: 2022-23 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2023

Published: Feb. 10, 2023

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Truly, I have no idea if this is an even trade for Sens / Caps. I am going into this assuming most Sens fans will say no...

According to Seravalli, the Sens "could look into interest for DeBrincat". He went on to say that a return would be below what the Blackhawks got for him (reminder: 7th overall pick, No. 39 pick last year, and a 2024 3rd).

In this trade, the Sens get:

2 1st round picks (which would probably be late-ish I guess - worst case)

Connor McM - I am not as high as some people are on this kid but still think he can be a 2c (worst case 3c). He did have great stats last year for a rookie (especially for you analytical ppl)

Chesley - slipped to the Caps last year - analysts are quite high on this puck moving RHD (18yo) - having a decent year in NCAA

Mantha - I truly believe he has been mismanaged by Lavy - I still see him as a top 6 forward, despite the misuse

This trade assumes Caps could resign DeBrincat for ~8x8.5mil (as Seravalli referenced)

Trades

WSH

DeBrincat, Alex

OTT

Chesley, Ryan [Reserve List]
Mantha, Anthony
McMichael, Connor
2023 1st round pick (WSH)
2024 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

2023 3rd round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

Any Team - with retention, I think Eller could get a 3rd for a defensive 3c

TOR

Eller, Lars ($1,500,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Any Team - Caps could retain if Carlson is out until playoffs

Retained Salary Transactions

Lars Eller: $1,500,000 (62.11%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$73,696,667	$100,000	$0	$8,803,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 2
DeBrincat, Alex $6,400,000$6,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Strome, Dylan $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1	Sheary, Conor $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Milano, Sonny $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 3
Johansson, Marcus $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dowd, Nic $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 3	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 3
		Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Fehérváry, Martin $791,667$791,667 LD/RD RFA - 1	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Kuemper, Darcy $5,250,000$5,250,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Lindgren, Charlie $1,100,000$1,100,000 G UFA - 3
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	van Riemsdyk, Trevor $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Alexeyev, Alexander $863,333$863,333 LD/RD RFA - 1		Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1		Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Protas, Aliaksei $789,167$789,167 ($0$0$0$0) ($82,500$82K) RW, LW, C UFA - 2
Irwin, Matt $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 1

Feb. 10, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.

qc14

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This is one asset too much imo. OTT can choose 3 out of 4 of the picks, McM, and Chesley.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.

markykins1

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This is a big man's trade right here! (ironically, cat is tiny) I'd love this kind of scorer added to the top 6.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

All_Knowing

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Edited Feb. 10, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.

Quoting: qc14

This is one asset too much imo. OTT can choose 3 out of 4 of the picks, McM, and Chesley.

You read my initial thought - I was thinking the same thing, but was trying to avoid bias lol

My ideal trade would be 2023 1st, McM, Mantha, Chesley

But yeah anyways - thanks for feedback.

@NovaSpartan @capsfan2121- thoughts on this (as we have chatted about DeBrincat). Yes probably an asset too much - but trying to avoid the bias)

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.

perrystreett

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I would make this deal as is, but we prolly could get rid of one of the firsts and if need be add a second or third.

Only issue we could run into is the sens having no interest in mantha.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.

capsfan2121

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Quoting: perrystreett

I would make this deal as is, but we prolly could get rid of one of the firsts and if need be add a second or third.

Only issue we could run into is the sens having no interest in mantha.

Exactly my thoughts. My version of the trade is up

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.

Mike7856

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In my opinion, if Ottawa looks to trade Cat, it will be a hockey trade for another Top 6 forward or a Top 4 RD. They’re looking to compete so a trade for picks/prospects wouldn’t really make sense.

Feb. 10, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.

All_Knowing

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Quoting: Mike7856

If it helps, in my opinion, McM will be ready to play top 9 next year and Mantha still is a top 9 (at minimum) forward. Chesley is a ways away (only 18). And then you still have a 1st in a stacked draft class.

But I understand what you mean

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.

emoprettyboy

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I don't think any reasonable Sens fan would argue with you in terms of trade value here, but if they have to move DeBrincat, I think it'll have to be for a "hockey trade" where they get a good, young NHL RHD in return. Sens really can't afford to just take a step back in their rebuild at this stage

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.

All_Knowing

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Quoting: emoprettyboy

Ah got it - yeah the Caps might not have the pieces the Sens need then

The Caps have Iorio, who is 20 and shaping up to be a top 4 puck-moving RHD. He has dominated in AHL this year and should crack the NHL roster next year. But I would assume he is almost untouchable due to the Caps having really no one else in the near-term pipeline for RHD.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Ottawa accepts.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

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Yeah I am doing it as well

I am hoping Mantha have a bit of a rebound next year, worst case scenario his contract expires. He's a downgrade on DeBrincat but Sens save 3 M$ here that should be invested in getting a Top-4 RHD

And with all those assets acquired, it should help to go after that said D-man

Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:31 p.m.

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Quoting: All_Knowing

makes sense. prospect like that is hard to move. all that being said, as a couple other people pointed out, these are assets that could probably pretty easily be flipped for the dman the Sens are looking for. If we assume that’s what the Sens did with the assets they got back from Washington in this deal, then I’d be pleased with it

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