Larkin extended involves one of Necas or Jarvis at a minimum with a top prospect and a '23 1st.

Sorry, I can see how the wording is confusing… this trade is without an extension. Once traded, Canes immediately give him what he wants in his next contract.

Wings pass Larkin and wings are hot and pushing for playoffs. It's a pipe dream that you are getting Larkin, time to aim lower for a realistic option

Larkin isn't available and won't be traded. But if he were. he'd be commanding a lot more than this. Especially with an extension lined up on the table.

2023 1st Round Pick
Martin Necas
Scott Morrow
Jameison Rees

Larkin isn't available. Red Wings aren't sellers. 2 points out of the playoffs with 3 games in hand on the Caps for the last wildcard spot. Apparently people don't look at the NHL standings. This is wishful thinking fantasy land stuff. The Ducks won't be making the playoffs. Maybe I'll see if Verbeek will trade Zegras?

That probably isn't gonna get you McCabe with retention. But if you need retention, you might as well take the full 50%, IMO. I think the retention slot itself is the more important and valuable part of the trade, for CHI, than the amount. They might even prefer retaining the larger amount to help them over the cap. I could be wrong though. Who knows what CHI's plans are to get over the cap next year. Depends if CHI wants to make real long term additions or just stop gap/trade bait additions over the summer.

Fensore is good. But LHD are the last thing CHI needs.

Hope you realize that is what an extension means..... the Canes signing him.

I mean if it came to moving Larkin it's not a bad deal. Morrow is a stud and picks. I'd try to squeeze 1 more high quality piece out of you instead of the 2nd or Suzuki but who knows. I'm less optimistic than most that he gets signed but I think he gets signed.

What I meant is the trade goes through first (with no strings attached) and then the Canes do the smart thing and extend him. All the Detroit fans claiming Larkin won’t be dealt may be right. He could sign an extension anytime. And he’s worth $9mil whether Stevie agrees or not. But it would be quite foolish to let Larkin go to UFA for nothing. We will see how sure Detroit is about keeping an unsigned UFA at the deadline (assuming he doesn’t sign before the deadline).

And Detroit is most definitely not making the playoffs. Take that to the bank…

Yeah but Larkin being moved has zero to do with our standings. You don't move him because you're in or out of the playoffs youd only move him because you don't think he'll sign.

You need to go have a look at the season Necas is having as a 23 year old. Larkin just does not hold that kind of value to justify Necas.

Correct

I'm very aware of the season Necas is having. I'm aware of the seasons he had before this season. Larkin at 23 was a better player than Necas at 23. Larkin is the superior player. If Detroit loses their heart and soul captain and superior center, they are going to get a quality center to replace him. That quality center is Necas. No Necas. No Deal...Even that said. If Carolina offered Necas, Morrow, Rees and a 1st for Larkin I'd reject it. That's just how valuable Larkin is to the Wings. He'll be extended.

I'm a believer that the Wings not making the playoffs is a good thing and will bring assets back to the team which will be needed for the next couple of years. There time is not now.

Major disagree. Necas right now is better than Larkin was at 23. There's nothing Larkin does better (even now) than Necas. Gamebreaking speed? Necas hit the highest top speed in the NHL last year. Versatility? Necas can play across the forward positions. Defensively? Necas is better and it isn't close. Not to mention Necas is still 23, signed for 3 million, and will be an RFA after that. Any mention of Necas for Larkin is delusional. Absolutely not.

And just last season the Canes were looking into deal moving on from Necas, but yes this season he has been lights out. Larkin is a PtPG 200ft captain that breathes life in the lineup overnight in the prime of his career that would match the Canes time to run into a cup, you absolutely pay the price for that. Larkin's worth is not just scoring points as you can see watching his play, his value has actually never been higher this why he is asking for $9M per.





Also, teams don't trade a UFA then let the team that traded for the player to go sign a deal. That is what a sign and trade is and Yzerman is not dumb enough to give up the hometown boy and captain of the team for a rental when the team will try to sign him.... terrible asset management.

Larkin at 23. 76GP. 32G. 41A. 73P. 0.96PPG. 0.42GPG
Necas at 23. 54GP. 21G. 27A. 48P. 0.88PPG. 0.38GPG

Sit down son.

Exactly! It only took Necas a full season in the AHL and 3 in the NHL before hitting the 20 goal mark.

You're taking stats halfway through a season? Stfu, I cannot take you serious if you're seriously comparing this seasons stats before the deadline. Sit down and grow up.

Crosby had a full season in the AHL, so is Larkin better than Sid? Trying to use a development curve like this is beyond braindead

"Sit down son"

It is okay to disagree..... Larkin plays top line minutes against the other teams best players for what has been a very clear inferior team his whole career and still puts up better stats than Necas. I'm not saying Necas cannot get there, but no he is not Larkin or close right now. If you went to any GM or coach in the league and asked them who would you rather have I would be very shocked if any of the them said Necas. He's definitely not faster or better defensively. Larkin's work ethic is so in your face and apparent every game... even the all star game lol.

Yes, the only winning argument you have is that Necas is on a better contract and holds surplus value. That was not a part of the convo... Larkin is still the better player and the Canes would need to pay big time to acquire him.

Necas plays top line minutes on one of the best teams in hockey... Necas is a better two way player, Necas is faster... seriously reconsider. Oh and if you want to question Necas' speed, look at this

Yes I agree. Larkin is better in nearly every category. Quite the self own.