Following the breadcrumbs on a Meier deal

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I dont in this case Brennan is better than/ or obviously better than the sharks prospects at the moment. I would guess that / hope that the sharks would go after Muk over Gritsyuk, and do their best to get holtz in the deal although the opportunity for two firsts is probably better than holtz

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.

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Quoting: Lancebmx

Brennan or Malek probably
Our prospect goalie depth chart probably looks like...

Akira Schmid -- unlikely, as he may take Blackwood spot as early as next year.
Nico Daws -- maybe, but I figured someone off reserves was easier since SJ is near the contract limit.
Jakub Malek -- Probably the better prospect than Brennan right now, but less recognizable name.
Ty Brennan -- (included above). He was last goalie cut from Canadian World Junior team..and was top-ranked goalie from last year's draft (Can't really tell you much more about him
Cole Brady -- Currently, an NCAA back-up at age 22.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Makiniemi looks solid, am guessing he is top option internally. Chrona may become a free agent this summer. Mann, while his personal habits/ethic is inspiring, is still in ECHL at age 24. Gaudreau and Beaupit don't appear to be on track for pro contracts yet. I'd think either Malek or Brennan would help, at least from depth perspective.

Ranking goalie prospects is not really my thing, but taking a stab anyway...

Schmid
Daws
Makiniemi

Malek
Chrona

Gaudreau
Brennan
Mann

Beaupit
Emond
Brady

Feb. 21, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.

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This deal sucks, and you know it. Rule of thumb - if you have to write this much, you know its bs

Feb. 21, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.

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Makes a lot of sense based on the reports. Would probably guess that Daws or Schmid leaves though.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.

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This deal sucks, and you know it. Rule of thumb - if you have to write this much, you know its bs

I agree I'm thinking more like:
Nemec, Holtz, 23 1st Muk, a goalie prospect and rostered player, maybe Sharongovich for
Meier with no retention and no cap dump back to SJ
I mean it's close but I'm still not sure it's enough? Thoughts?

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.

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I would be a little higher than Mann, right now he is really too good for the ECHL but gets sent down to make room for Dell. He is currently on a 3-0 run with the Cuda and looks very very solid. Every time he is in the ECHL he is getting weekly awards constantly. I think a goalie prospect is only part of a meier deal if they look like a surefire thing to be an NHL starter.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.

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Quoting: Smitty426

I know youre trolling my guy up there, but Holtz 1st and muk for meier I think is fair value. minor changes can be maid for retention + moving Johnson if devils desire

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.

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Quoting: Smitty426

Solid Strawman - rule of thumb you quoted applies here as well.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.

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This deal sucks, and you know it. Rule of thumb - if you have to write this much, you know its bs

Just sound out the syllables one at a time, okay!

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.

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Quoting: sharcuda22

That we don't have...not in our prospect pool, at least.

I think the SJS pool looks a lot better with Chrona included.
Outside of Levi, Parets, Dobes, Commesso...he is probably 5th best NCAA Goalie prospect right now.
Gotta get him signed.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Just sound out the syllables one at a time, okay!

How dare users write out their thought process on this site!

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.

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Quoting: sharcuda22

I know youre trolling my guy up there, but Holtz 1st and muk for meier I think is fair value. minor changes can be maid for retention + moving Johnson if devils desire

No troll, this is what you want, send over the papers, you've worn us down!

Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.

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agree for sure, that all being said I appreciate the thought and effort that was put into this trade.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.

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Is Chrona at risk of not being signed?

Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

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This deal sucks, and you know it. Rule of thumb - if you have to write this much, you know its bs

the real rule of thumb is if you cant back up your argument (like yours) with explanation, you're opinion is not worth much.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

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if there is a goalie prospect involved, it will be daws or schmit.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

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Quoting: drambui

if there is a goalie prospect involved, it will be daws or schmit.

While I agree in general, I think Gritsyuk and Zetterlund are valuable enough to offset that in this deal. If you wanted to swap Z for Foote, I'd be willing to upgrade the goalie.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

While I agree in general, I think Gritsyuk and Zetterlund are valuable enough to offset that in this deal. If you wanted to swap Z for Foote, I'd be willing to upgrade the goalie.

hehe, doesnt really matter what you want :P, i dont know what the final trade will look like, but if they are interested in a goalie, its gotta 1 of these 2 is all i'm saying. what the other pieces will be i dont know!

Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.

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Quoting: drambui

I wouldn't be so sure. Brennan, although objectively worse than Schmid and Daws, was the top rated NA goalie this year. He may be attractive to the Sharks because he's unsigned and therefore easier to throw into the deal, and would be an afterthought for Fitz, easier to give up.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.

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Quoting: Smitty426

No troll, this is what you want, send over the papers, you've worn us down!

No troll, no papers for said toll. About 10 days to go, we shall see.

Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.

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Quoting: drambui

the real rule of thumb is if you cant back up your argument (like yours) with explanation, you're opinion is not worth much.

Straw man was the explanation, good sir.

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Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.

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I would imagine San Jose is looking for actually good goalie prospects, Brennan doesn’t add much of anything. And if this is the return for Meier Grier should pack his bags now

Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:10 p.m.

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