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Created by: ht42

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 29, 2023

Published: Mar. 29, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If the Jets match the OS: he will play one season and will sign with MTL at the 2024 free agency. Also, Winnipeg can't trade him during the season because Dubois signed a OS.

If the Jets didn't match the OS: Winnipeg will receive a 2024 3rd round pick and Dubois will be a Montreal Canadiens. Afterward, during the season, he will sign a 8 years extension.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc		1	$2,100,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	$2,100,000	2024 3rd round pick

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$62,059,166	$1,170,000	$4,752,500	$20,440,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Farrell, Sean $897,500$897,500 ($557,500$558K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $2,100,000$2,100,000 C UFA - 8
	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.

palhal

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. PLD doesn't sign it and takes the QO one year for 6m. Jets keep him for one year instead of taking a third rounder (if he did sign the offer sheet), and then PLD signs just 7 year contract as a UFA.

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.

ht42

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Quoting: palhal

The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.

Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.

drambui

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Quoting: palhal

i guess the option to trade him or the the QO would not be possivle if he sign the OS. (but thats never gonna happen so its a moot point)

Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: ht42

The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.

The problem in your scenario, is the Jets would rather have second line centre for 23/24 instead of a third rounder. Jets can still trade him for more than a third rounder at TDL if they are sellers if he QOed.

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.

ht42

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Quoting: palhal

The problem is the Jets doesn't want to lose him without a return at free agency, because they know that Dubois doesn't want anymore playing for the Jets, but for the Canadiens.

Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.

Shifttee

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Quoting: ht42

The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.

Quoting: palhal

Quoting: drambui

i guess the option to trade him or the the QO would not be possivle if he sign the OS. (but thats never gonna happen so its a moot point)

You guys realize that WPG can just file for team initiated salary Arbitration and it blocks any team for Offer sheeting him or contacting him right?

That's what happened with Matthew Tkachuk , Teams file arbitration before FA begins, so MTL wouldn't even be allowed to speak with him

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.

ht42

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ht42

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Quoting: Shifttee

I think they also need the autorisation of the player for making that, and Tkachuck sign his contract extesion just before he got traded.

Mar. 29, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.

sensonfire

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Asking Dubois or anyone for that matter to take a 4 million dollar pay cut out of the goodness of their heart is funny.

The audacity!

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.

Black61

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Quoting: ht42

The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.

Jets dont have a choice they HAVE to offer him his QO or he becomes a UFA

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Mar. 30, 2023 at 7:15 a.m.

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Quoting: Shifttee

How would you explain this then?

"If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends."

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/arbitration

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Mar. 30, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

How would you explain this then?

BY referencing this article from NHL.com

https://www.nhl.com/news/calgary-flames-file-for-salary-arbitration-with-matthew-tkachuk/c-335031908

"By doing so, Tkachuk, a restricted free agent, is unable to receive an offer sheet from another team."

Honestly, I am not an expert in Arbitrration or offer sheets,
So I can't say I am right or you are right (seems to be conflicting info out there)

I just remembered everyone talking about Tkachuk not being able to receive an offer-sheet because of the team elected arbitration

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